Fair enough. I do understand your point that pretty much all of the Chinese frames are knock- offs (as in there are no original designs) and I do not intend to ever ride a cheap Chinese frame. I do however (and this could just be ignorance) believe that certain Chinese manufacturers design there own wheels and that some of them are to be trusted. Again I do not own or ride Chinese carbon wheels, but from what I have read the rims seem to be ok. I think that the term "Chinese" might be used a bit too vaguely. There are reputable brands having their products manufactured in China. That being said, most proper stuff in being manufactured in Taiwan. I think what we as consumers need to stay away from and what Specialized and some other companies are fighting is the (ethically debatable and sometimes illegal) manufacture of open- mold frames. These are the frames being churned out of toy factories that have no quality control. One frame could be better than the original and the next could be a death trap. That's my biggest issue with this "under the radar" Chinese stuff. There is no consistency. I know I would much rather ride a bike that has been made in a factory that the brand supports and carries a warranty and is guaranteed to not catastrophically fail, than ride something I got for cheap. And let's be honest, those replicas NEVER perform as well as the originals, because as has been mentioned, the do not use the same carbon lay- ups, carbon densities, resin or any of that. They just slap some carbon into a mold and hope for the best.
