I'm no metallurgist, but I have to call bullsh*t on this "its all just marketing" thing. It takes about 10 seconds of googling to find neutral sources of information about the effects of adding small quantities of scandium to aluminium alloys, which are considerable. Also, if you went beyond Wikipedia, you would find out that companies which use the stuff for things like bicycle parts don't use pure scandium from that tiny 400kg annual production when they mix up their alloy. They use a "master-alloy" which they get from a supplier who makes it up using scandium oxide (SC2O3), currently available in reasonable quantities in Russia, where decommissioned military supplies are relatively plentiful. What happens when they run out is another story but there are other sources of scandium oxide. Anyway. From what I understand scandium in very small quantities makes aluminium alloys more weldable and limits the degree to which welding distorts the grain structure of the metal (recrystallisation as the welded area cools makes cracks more likely to form for obvious reasons). Strong aluminium alloys are particularly *** for welding, but adding a tiny dose of scandium to the usual recipe of Al, Zinc, Magnesium, etc, solves that problem. For sports kit like bicycles, tent poles, baseball bats, that means you can make strong tubes that are thinner and lighter, than those made out of traditional alloys, which are more weldable but weaker, and have to be used in fatter tubes - think arse smashing early 90s cannondale. Strong, light, and weldable is also useful for building Mig-29 jets and ultralight handguns ... For a non-commercial, and rather sciency literature review, try this explanation: http://www.home.no/al-sc/papers/Scandium%20in%20Aluminium%20Alloys%20-%20International%20Materials%20Reviews.pdf And for a marketing tainted, but very clear and sensible explanation relevant to cyclists, the Easton website offers this: http://www.eastonbike.com/downloadable_files_unprotected/r&d_files/R&D-03%20Scandium.pdf So, sure, it costs more than gold in its pure form. And sure, KCNC uses aluminium alloys with a tiny percentage of Scandium, as do others, like easton, but it does make a real difference. Again, those "SC" parts aren't scandium in the strict sense, but they are stronger and lighter than traditional, cheaper aluminium alloys. That was way too long, but what I am trying to say is that its silly to just write this stuff off as marketing, although it has obvious marketing benefits. Clearly different alloys have different properties, 7000 series al is great for some applications, titanium is great for others, and carbon for others still. I rather like steel bikes, and I don't think anyone here is going argue that there is no difference between Reynold 853 and 953, for example. "Scandium" seems to make for about the best "aluminium" for some pretty major bicycle applications whatever you want to call the stuff. R-SYS wheels ... now on those I agree with Herr Bornman pistadex2009-01-27 12:06:14