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Edgar

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  1. Dave I think it is more than that, Obvs training for a comrades through winter is really tough for anybody north of the WC or KZN. Most of our training will be in the cold and very dark. Other than this, it means you write off any Autumn marathons in the NH and it competes with UTMB etc for top intl athletes (which would grow the profile of the event) The potential for really bad weather is also increased, I have yet to see one credible reason for an August date. The whole road calendar has been structured around TOM on easter and comrades in June for a very long time. Those habits are hard to break, I agreed with you, for a lot of runners i think it set up there year and what they were going to run. It is also a good way to kickstart your year. Come January you know you need to put the skoens on and strt training for C. August throws that all out.
  2. It is in miles, easy to convert though. The program is relatively easy and not that time consuming. Walking is easier, it just will not get you the sub 3.
  3. With that PB and following the Asics Sub 3 program you would break the sub 3 barrier.
  4. He is a very avg runner and by his own admission. He was a decent rower at uni, but that was 15 plus years ago. I'm doing Comrades again, I've had a terrible build up and its too flat in London. I'm going to hurt on the downhills. 3 weeks of African hills will help though. Ferret has dropped me like last weeks newspaper, I couldn't even convince him to pace me to inchanga. He has his focus set on smashing berlin and going super low, I'll be on the start line with him and in the bar afterwards but I don't think I will spend much time on the course with him.
  5. I will put it out there, nobody with a 37 min 10K pb is getting close to a 2:33 marathon. Off that they would be lucky to do 2:45. Based off experience you would need to have a 10k PB between 32:30 - 34:00. Stryd is selling you the dream
  6. Define AVG Runner? I don't think you can equate anybody just finishing comrades or an ultra to a specific time on a 10k. You don't need to be any better than and avg runner to run a silver comrades. You have to be a better than avg runner to run a silver oceans. Finishing comrades or an ultra doesn't make you an avg runner. You can jog your way to a 5h marathon and walk the rest of the way and finish comrades before the cut off. I feel that an avg runner should be able to get very close to a silver comrades and at worst no slower than 8:30. Running 5m/km isnt that hard with some training, its a mindset that people create barriers around. Do the training - like you are for the 10k - and suddenly it is doable to run a decent ultra not just finish. Sun 37m 10k is a decent time but not unachievable for the avg runner if they put in the training. You aint going from running 40+ minutes to sub 37 off 8 weeks of training. This may be controversial, but that is my view. Got a mate that is between 95-100kg that went from running maybe 30k a week and not able to break 34 minutes for a 8k, to a sub 3 marathon and running regularly in and around 37 min 10k. It took him 12 months of training - and he trained hard with a good programme - and still weights over 90kg. I don't call him anything other than an avg runner.
  7. I assumed the person was already a 1:50 HM now, and then the question becomes what do they want to get it to and then what Jewbacca said. Adding one decent tempo session a week to a couple of easy runs should be enough
  8. My 5k PB is 16:09 So no chance and I can assure you that these results where with proper training and focus. Going into London in Oct it was predicting 2:27, I'm only just recovering now from the effort I put in on the day. I find that the V-Dot calc is far more accurate. Not saying don't have a go at it though.
  9. Almost as quiet as Comrades and Oceans have been about dates for '22. Not used the On's so can't comment. on them. If you are looking for a mileage cushioned shoe it is hard to get better than the NB 1080's, they really are superb.
  10. He has run away from me in my two marathons this year. In London he ran past me twice, I don't know how that happened, no need to google him. He is an Olympian after all.
  11. There are several members on here that are into their 40's and still regularly (as races allow) running around 2:40's. Considering running wasn't really their primary sport it it shows what is possible. The 100th placed 40-49 at CTM was Sub 3. There were 15 sub 3's in the 50-59 as well. No reason that really good times are not achievable deep into your 50's
  12. Gone are the days of counting strokes on a 200 or having Nandor barking at you from a dinghy.
  13. The super shoes are certainly beneficial and unbelievably comfortable (brand agnostic) They make you want to run fast, if Barry ditched his Nimbus 10's for a pair of super shoes that sub 18 would be a given.
  14. Just think how fast you could have gone with a little more focus and some super shoes.
  15. I believe that if you are doing the other stuff correctly (training/diet etc) then the metrics and data do become important. You are eeking out that last 5 % to get to your limit. Stride length/cadence is relative to the individual for sure, that comes down to the understanding your own body and limits. lance at 90 rpm vs jan at 75rpm and on and on. There is a definite correlation at a elite/sub elite level with regards cadence and stride length (relative to physiology). So why not look at it along with the other aspects in trying to improve? If you don't want to improve (just going out to run) by all means ignore it and carry on. This is largely skewed towards non ultra road distance, it is unlikely to be as relative for ultra and trail as running form is very different.
  16. Great run runs Barry and Ridr. We can still be friends Barry.
  17. Stride length is important, however useless without high cadence as well. This is from a recent 5k I did, I'm only 177cm tall. High Cadence with longer stride length is free speed. On longer easy runs I'll still have a cadence of around 1750-180 stride length comes down to 1.35-1.45. Always working on keeping the cadence up.
  18. If I see anything slower than 17:50 from you we can't be friends. You got that in you easily.
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