Hairy Posted February 3, 2012 Share When looking for a frame the end of last year I had the same problem with them, they even had the audacity to call and discuss options, email me a price break down and then the went so far as to be friendly ..... what is happening to this industry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesley_r Posted February 3, 2012 Share noooooo! i don't believe you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Drongo Posted February 3, 2012 Share @Hairy - apparently the Cotic is better, I wouldn't know, but that's what "they" say. "They" are right@Drongo - BFe is nice - but optimised for 150mm travel, right? Where the Soul is optimised for 120-140, making it a nice XC plaything as well? Wrong.ok I'm wrong - BFe 100-160mm. perfect for my current Sektor (110-150) You gottit ! you bastards! The BFe frame is a lot heavier than the Soul. I had a BFe frame for a while, but swopped it out for a Soul Pussy! And I shall end with this..... sweet dreams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Drongo Posted February 3, 2012 Share and this courtesy of Mtbdude! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesley_r Posted February 3, 2012 Share considering i want to do about 1 race a month on the bike - isn't the soul the better option? how much heavier is the BFe? I really would like to go a bit lighter than my current rig what am I saying - I AM NOT BUYING A NEW BIKE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Drongo Posted February 3, 2012 Share considering i want to do about 1 race a month on the bike - isn't the soul the better option? how much heavier is the BFe? I really would like to go a bit lighter than my current rig what am I saying - I AM NOT BUYING A NEW BIKE!!! The SOUL eezs por joo amigo, sheeez por joo ! ***look at it this way, you aren't. You are just going to be selling an old frame.... Edited February 3, 2012 by The Drongo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesley_r Posted February 3, 2012 Share the 31.6 seat tube and ISCG mounts on the BFe, plus the lower price and ability to drop the seat further and go to a full 150mm, is all really appealing. luckily i don't need to decide. I am happy with my bike (for now) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banna Posted February 3, 2012 Share luckily i don't need to decide. I am happy with my bike (for now) So now you make us get all excited..... smuck.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesley_r Posted February 3, 2012 Share hey I never said I was buying one. I said I was thinking about it. I still am... would be a mission to flog my frame now, and not sure how much I'd get for it anyways... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted February 3, 2012 Share So now you make us get all excited..... smuck.... Agreed .. now that is like lank annoying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banna Posted February 3, 2012 Share Haha! No worries dude. Buy it when you ready.... but rather sooner than later! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesley_r Posted February 3, 2012 Share hey, if i can't share my annoyance, what good is this forum? happy friday everybody, thanks for all the advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Man Posted February 3, 2012 Share Dis Lelik man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted February 7, 2012 Share Cotic BFe review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesley_r Posted February 7, 2012 Share saw that review yesterday, shot still deliberating, don't hold your breath, it could take a few months IF I get a Cotic though, I really can't decide between the Soul and BFE. My riding is mostly trail / AM type riding. I don't really do DH or DJ, and ride dual slalom or pump track type stuff very seldom (though I do enjoy it). I do, however, ride XC races (the casual fun ride types, non competitively) with my Dad, once every 2 months or so, maybe once a month. Usually 20-40km. IF I build it off my Commencal, build highlights will include an adjustable travel coil Rock Shox Sektor (110-150mm) with 15mm through axle, and wide, burly AlexRim SupraBHs with 2.3 / 2.4 tubeless tyres. Drivetrain is currently 2x9, but will be dropping the granny gear, and one day will convert it to 1x10 when I can afford to. One day. Long from now Pros of the Soul:1. Orange!2. lighter3. some say a more lively ride Cons of the Soul:1. 27.2mm seat post Pros of the BFe:1. Burly2. can run a longer fork (though I am happy with 140mm)3. ISCG tabs4. 31.6mm seat post5. Can slam the seat lower Cons of the BFe:1. Heavier2. Some say less lively than the Soul3. Will need to run a long seatpost I reckon Usually weight doesn't bug me, but with the idea of running 1 ring up front, the lighter the bike the better! I am still way unfit on climbs and need all the help I can get! I must say right now I am leaning towards the Soul, just wondering if it'll handle my 115kg frame recklessly piling straight through the rough stuff. The only line choice is: a straight line Edited February 7, 2012 by the_wes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agteros Posted February 7, 2012 Share Just remember that you'll need a 30mm seat clamp for the Soul (Hope is the only supplier locally who keeps this odd size - you might get one with the frame though, you can confirm with Cotic) Not sure what size seatclamp the BFe uses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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