Ozone therapy

[beanz]

I thought ozone is toxic? The wikipedia page on it, especially how it's introduced into the body doesn't sound like fun (depending on your point of view)... http://en.wikipedia....i/Ozone_therapy

 

Do you believe everything you read in Wikipedia?

Just have a look at some of the older versions of the article e.g.:

http://en.wikipedia....oldid=453924453

Paints a different picture altogether.

 

Definitely not toxic in the true sense of the word - just a highly potent substance that needs to be administered in the right way.

[V12man]

I used to do a lot of work in the bottled water industry in South Afirca and in those years (2001-2008) it was illegal to bottle ozone water. We used to use the ozone rich water to disinfect the water that those plastic PET bottles got washed with. That was as close as you could get to it ozone water. Ozone however does not last long in the water (+- 30min) after which its effectiveness goes down. What the law says around it these days I do not know.

 

II also got an overdose of the stuff doing some work from a pipe that was leaking. It felt like I was going to cough my lungs out for a few days. It is not good

 

Receiving Oxygen enriched air in an hyperbaric environment is a science that has been going on for a long time and does work. I currently do work in the diving industry and this is how divers get treated that have contracted the bends. It is also used for medicinal purposes of which you can find info everywhere. Divers have been using it for many many years with no side effects.

 

Slightly enriched... not pure o2 - if you work in the dive industry you will know you don't use pure o2 at more than about 30 foot depth of water.... causes a few fatal problems...

 

I used to have a patient when I was in the army - Jimmy - he collected a good set of bends from diving anchors in Gordons Bay harbour (facemask and snorkel) - luckily someone who knew the number in Simonstown saw him surface and recognised the problem - they sent the portable chamber across by chopper... he got a lucky break that day...

[Cellar]

Slightly enriched... not pure o2 - if you work in the dive industry you will know you don't use pure o2 at more than about 30 foot depth of water.... causes a few fatal problems...

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Yeah, isn't pure O2 harmful to us? I mean if we breathe it in?

[Guest Latent Blue]

i cant find any forums on it, sorry if there is one,

 

WHOS DONE IT,,PROS CONS,,, WASTE OF MONEY OR EFFECTIVE???

 

calling all you hubber know it alls

You should ad a poll to this thread...?

[camelman]

Slightly enriched... not pure o2 - if you work in the dive industry you will know you don't use pure o2 at more than about 30 foot depth of water.... causes a few fatal problems...

 

I used to have a patient when I was in the army - Jimmy - he collected a good set of bends from diving anchors in Gordons Bay harbour (facemask and snorkel) - luckily someone who knew the number in Simonstown saw him surface and recognised the problem - they sent the portable chamber across by chopper... he got a lucky break that day...

 

That's true, forgot to add that different levels at different depths. Well spotted. The deeper you go the less you get.

 

Ok, enough of work, lets ride bikes, or at least talk about them.

[Guest Latent Blue]

Yeah, isn't pure O2 harmful to us? I mean if we breathe it in?

 

Yep. O2 percentage in the atmosphere is 21%.

In medicine we use anything from 21-40% and even up to 80%, depends on the severity.

At times (such as anasthesia) we'll use 100% for short (proven safe) durations...

[V12man]

Dips... I have quite a good understanding of physiology/chemistry/pathology etc...

I say, be careful...

 

see what happens chemically when you dilute h2o2 with h20... and they use hugely low concentrations for IV use - so it's basically water.... Personally I think it's quackery... especially drinking water laced with h202... get the concentrations wrong in an IV, and you will be in deep doo doo VERY quickly... there have to be less painful ways to die too...

 

For some reason, health shops seem to think it's a good thing... (maybe the margins are great...)

[DIPSLICK]

Ok, enough of work, lets ride bikes, or at least talk about them

 

THATS MY POINT I WANT TO RIDE BUT MY KNEE IS EINNA I AM LOOKING FOR WAYS TO HEAL SOONER

 

PS THIS IS IN TRAINING/HEALTH/NUTRITION SECTION

[Guest Latent Blue]

Medication forms in a gaseous state are somewhat unusual, and it is for this reason that special application techniques have had to be developed for the safe use of O3. In local applications as in the treatment of external wounds, its application in the form of a transcutaneous O3gas bath has established itself as being the most practical and useful method, for example at low (sub-atmospheric) pressure in a closed system guaranteeing no escape of O3 into the surrounding air. Ozonized water, whose use is particularly known in dental medicine, is optimally applied as a spray or compress. Diseases treated are infected wounds, circulatory disorders, geriatric conditions, macular degeneration, viral diseases, rheumatism/arthritis, cancer, SARS and AIDS.

[Cellar]

 

 

For some reason, health shops seem to think it's a good thing... (maybe the margins are great...)

 

Wasn't the word quackery mentioned here? There's a sucker born every minute isn't there?

[Cellar]

 

THATS MY POINT I WANT TO RIDE BUT MY KNEE IS EINNA I AM LOOKING FOR WAYS TO HEAL SOONER

 

 

What's wrong with your knee?

[DIPSLICK]

YOU SIT IN THIS

[Guest Latent Blue]

So I found this...

 

I think this must be approached carefully...

Every quack proclaming "ozone, get your ozone" can't be trusted

 

As with all medical therapies there are pros and cons

 

 

[DIPSLICK]

What's wrong with your knee?

DEPENDS which surgeon i listen too, i fell 3 months ago and i want it to heal sooner, its not healing quick enough for me so i am looking into options

[V12man]

Yeah, isn't pure O2 harmful to us? I mean if we breathe it in?

 

Not for a short period at near sea level pressures - BUT - NOT to be used under pressurised conditions (underwater/hyperbaric chamber) - I used to know exactly how long was allowed, but that's gone to memory heaven now.... along with most of what I used to know about dive medicine.

 

Medical usage - even at 100% there is a fair amount of atmospheric gas around too - so it's never really 100%, and it's NOT under pressure.

[Guest Latent Blue]

Sunnen GV. Ozone in medicine: Overview and future directions. J Adv Med.1988;1:159–74o

This looks like a more trustworthy source...

 

Could find the full text though