Tubehunter Posted April 14, 2015 Author Posted April 14, 2015 Yes the issue is very simple. The road belongs to cyclists and motorists. No matter what hat you wearing, the rules and have to be obeyed.Cyclist was likely within the 1m of the shoulder as given to him by the law. Soeker passed by at over 2m (?) which means he was on the other side of the road while driving and looking at 90 degree to the direction of travel to make a comment that would have taken a few seconds.since he was not checking a blind spot I'd say he was driving recklessly in order to remonstrate with a law abiding road user. Who should actually be ranting? and where is this cyclist to defend himself? instead we have the usual Hub justice from the usual suspects. BTW you did waste time to respond....just like you will read this post This topic was aimed at an audience who would understand that amongst the absolutes of our laws and various entitlements, there resides a space for people to exercise some well REASONED choices that allow both cyclists and motorists to equally enjoy the option of our shared resources, hopefully fostering some goodwill instead of animosity between our separate user groups. With you coming across as completely irrational, I will attempt to paint with words. The cyclist was claiming the lane. After 3 kms of driving behind him, there was finally a gap from oncoming traffic big enough to consider crossing the middle line and moving into the oncoming lane to overtake, leaving him with enough space and still allowing me the option of briefly engaging the chap and suggesting he use the route at another time. No doubt you will hunt for some other justification... There's a way to do things and a way to wind people up. I'll keep trying to play the ball and present a reasoned argument, whilst you continue trying to rile me. Your debate is glaringly similar to some chap cruising up Rhodes Drive on Monday morning during peak hour, oblivious to all the anger and frustration in the wake of those efforts!
GoLefty!! Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 This topic was aimed at an audience who would understand that amongst the absolutes of our laws and various entitlements, there resides a space for people to exercise some well REASONED choices that allow both cyclists and motorists to equally enjoy the option of our shared resources, hopefully fostering some goodwill instead of animosity between our separate user groups. With you coming across as completely irrational, I will attempt to paint with words. The cyclist was claiming the lane. After 3 kms of driving behind him, there was finally a gap from oncoming traffic big enough to consider crossing the middle line and moving into the oncoming lane to overtake, leaving him with enough space and still allowing me the option of briefly engaging the chap and suggesting he use the route at another time. No doubt you will hunt for some other justification... There's a way to do things and a way to wind people up. I'll keep trying to play the ball and present a reasoned argument, whilst you continue trying to rile me. Your debate is glaringly similar to some chap cruising up Rhodes Drive on Monday morning during peak hour, oblivious to all the anger and frustration in the wake of those efforts! so you feel ......entitled?
marko35s Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 so you feel ......entitled?Its you arguing entitlement, not him.
GoLefty!! Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 nope he's just wording it differently. I'm still awaiting his pearls of wisdom as to where we should ride where we won't inconvenience someone. please feel free to answer on his behalf
Eddy Gordo Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 I think the matter is more out of consideration for fellow road users and for your own safety. I understand both sides but one during peak hour as a cyclists I will want to stay far away from any extremely busy roads for my own safety.
marko35s Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 nope he's just wording it differently. I'm still awaiting his pearls of wisdom as to where we should ride where we won't inconvenience someone. please feel free to answer on his behalfPersonally I prefer to go through my day not inconveniencing other people where possible. There are a lot of things that are not against the law but courtesy dictates you don't do it. Your argument seems to revolve around this not being illegal and that's it. That's pretty shallow.
GoLefty!! Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 cry me a river.........Consideration works both ways. Please answer the question relating to where one should cycle so as to not inconvenience anyone without continuing to judge me. Your and others hypocrisy is glaring.
Tubehunter Posted April 14, 2015 Author Posted April 14, 2015 so you feel ......entitled? Always wondered what it would be like to argue with someone who could not focus on the real topic at hand and keep fishing out opinionated junk from beyond left field...
marko35s Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 cry me a river.........Consideration works both ways. Please answer the question relating to where one should cycle so as to not inconvenience anyone without continuing to judge me. Your and others hypocrisy is glaring.Going down the route of insults because you don't have a decent argument to put forth?Or are you just naturally nasty in spirit?
Tubehunter Posted April 14, 2015 Author Posted April 14, 2015 I think the matter is more out of consideration for fellow road users and for your own safety. I understand both sides but one during peak hour as a cyclists I will want to stay far away from any extremely busy roads for my own safety. Please try not to put the obvious in front of Lefty on this topic. His judgement is clouded and entitled it seems!
Hackster Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 cry me a river.........Consideration works both ways. Please answer the question relating to where one should cycle so as to not inconvenience anyone without continuing to judge me. Your and others hypocrisy is glaring.Ja, so if the guy is commuting, it's not as bad as if the guy was training. One is necessity and the other is indulgence. As a very regular rider of Rhodes drive, albeit two hours earlier in the day might I suggest you consider a montage of Klaasens, Hohenort, Brommersvlei, Spilhaus, Southern Cross, M41 etc. Less volume in most instances. But suffice to say, that training on public roads in rush hour traffic is going to expose you to needless risk. You know it. I know it. Everyone knows it. It might not be right or perfect but it is reality. And I suspect that you are just as tired of RIP threads as I am.
Eddy Gordo Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 Please try not to put the obvious in front of Lefty on this topic. His judgement is clouded and entitled it seems! dude its obvious by the behaviour of many people these days that they dont care and only think of themselves. Whether its a cyclist, motorists, politician it always about themselves. The rest of the world can wait!!
GoLefty!! Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 Always wondered what it would be like to argue with someone who could not focus on the real topic at hand and keep fishing out opinionated junk from beyond left field... you mean like your self righteous rant in post #1 of this thread? answer the question.
GoLefty!! Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 Going down the route of insults because you don't have a decent argument to put forth?Or are you just naturally nasty in spirit? your passive aggressive entitled spirit does not affect me.
marko35s Posted April 14, 2015 Posted April 14, 2015 your passive aggressive entitled spirit does not affect me.[emoji1] Seriously though you do seem to be playing the man not the ball a lot in this thread. I'm very un-entitled believe me.
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