Odinson Posted August 13, 2015 Posted August 13, 2015 I'm mulling over choices for a new bike and considering getting a Canyon - still deciding on the specific model. Many of them are however specced with FOX suspension - primarily the forks are FOX 32 FLOAT CTD EVOLUTION and the shocks FOX FLOAT CTD EVOLUTION. Some models are also specced with the Boost Valve fork and the FIT Performance version of the shock. Reviews of these parts are very mixed - some users love them and some tell horror stories about poor performance. So basically, is this range of FOX's suspension really that bad or is it on par with similar offerings from RS?
mtbride Posted August 13, 2015 Posted August 13, 2015 Service kits are more expensive than similar RS kits. 2013 models were crap, 2014 better, and 2015 still better. My Evo fork blows through all it's travel very easy, no boostvalve that can control it better at the end of it's travel. It's got alot of stichion, not sure if this is due to the seals or the stanchion material. Always run it in descend mode. I have a Factory unit with BV at the back (was warranty replacement on my old EVO shock, what an upgrade!) and it's way smoother and better controlled in big hits. I will be upgrading my EVO fork to a RS Reba/Revelation 120mm one day
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted August 13, 2015 Posted August 13, 2015 ooooh boy. No. Evolution is ***. FIT damper was and is superior in many ways, and I'd say is equiv to mid range RS stuff. Factory I would rate as equal to the top RS offerings (RCT3 etc) the 2012 - 2015 Fox Evo stuff was just plain kaaaak. Performance slightly better. CTD stands for CrapTasticDepartment
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted August 13, 2015 Posted August 13, 2015 However - the 2016 Fox stuff is apparently back to the 2012 & before quality, which was better.
Odinson Posted August 13, 2015 Author Posted August 13, 2015 ooooh boy. No. Evolution is ***. FIT damper was and is superior in many ways, and I'd say is equiv to mid range RS stuff. Factory I would rate as equal to the top RS offerings (RCT3 etc) the 2012 - 2015 Fox Evo stuff was just plain kaaaak. Performance slightly better. CTD stands for CrapTasticDepartment So, if you can get the FIT dampers, you're okay, but avoid plain ol' Evo? It's a bit of a bummer, because I don't want to be swapping out suspension parts. I want a bike that is 100% from the get-go. What Kraggie mentioned seems to be common with the Evo, in that it simply blows through its travel and has virtually no ramp-up or a progressive feel.
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted August 13, 2015 Posted August 13, 2015 So, if you can get the FIT dampers, you're okay, but avoid plain ol' Evo? It's a bit of a bummer, because I don't want to be swapping out suspension parts. I want a bike that is 100% from the get-go. What Kraggie mentioned seems to be common with the Evo, in that it simply blows through its travel and has virtually no ramp-up or a progressive feel.Yes.
s14phoenix Posted August 13, 2015 Posted August 13, 2015 Also fitted a performance CTD FIT Fox 32 talas and its much better than the 32 CTD evo.the rear shock in ctd evo is ok-ish but does bottom pretty easy unless inflated a bit more or volume spacers added.
Dan Dob Posted August 13, 2015 Posted August 13, 2015 Personally I don't know what all the hate is about. Yes there are better forks out there (if you pay more) but I got along with the fox evo forks just fine with a few top 5 placings on local enduro's. Yes, they are linear in spring rate and the CTD thing is a waste of time in my opinion, but they go up and down when you hit stuff and the dampening is adjustable. I think we under-appreciate just how good most forks are nowadays or maybe it's just because I still remember riding the manitou mach 5's and the rockshox quadra 21r in the 90's...
rouxtjie Posted August 13, 2015 Posted August 13, 2015 However - the 2016 Fox stuff is apparently back to the 2012 & before quality, which was better. nice reviews on bikeradar on them...and explanations on why they were considered hondnaai. Also the bikeradar lads bring price into the equation, you can expect a 2000 rand fork to perform like a 13000 one...
Odinson Posted August 13, 2015 Author Posted August 13, 2015 Personally I don't know what all the hate is about. Yes there are better forks out there (if you pay more) but I got along with the fox evo forks just fine with a few top 5 placings on local enduro's. Yes, they are linear in spring rate and the CTD thing is a waste of time in my opinion, but they go up and down when you hit stuff and the dampening is adjustable. I think we under-appreciate just how good most forks are nowadays or maybe it's just because I still remember riding the manitou mach 5's and the rockshox quadra 21r in the 90's... True. I'm not expecting Pike performance, given the cost. As long as there is decent small bump compliance and it doesn't blow through all of its travel when riding off of the sidewalk. Here in Belgium you can do 99% of all MTB'ing on a CX bike, so I don't need crazy good suspension.
NicoBoshoff Posted August 13, 2015 Posted August 13, 2015 Personally I don't know what all the hate is about. Yes there are better forks out there (if you pay more) but I got along with the fox evo forks just fine with a few top 5 placings on local enduro's. Yes, they are linear in spring rate and the CTD thing is a waste of time in my opinion, but they go up and down when you hit stuff and the dampening is adjustable. I think we under-appreciate just how good most forks are nowadays or maybe it's just because I still remember riding the manitou mach 5's and the rockshox quadra 21r in the 90's...Shhhh, don't you know the LAST thing that matters on the Hub is just riding your bike. Fast.
NicoBoshoff Posted August 13, 2015 Posted August 13, 2015 True. I'm not expecting Pike performance, given the cost. As long as there is decent small bump compliance and it doesn't blow through all of its travel when riding off of the sidewalk. Here in Belgium you can do 99% of all MTB'ing on a CX bike, so I don't need crazy good suspension. I just binned mine because the CTD damper kept breaking, and I wanted a bit more travel than it offered.
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted August 13, 2015 Posted August 13, 2015 Shhhh, don't you know the LAST thing that matters on the Hub is just riding your bike. Fast.LOL. Thing is, Dan's on another level to us mere mortals. Less said about our riding ability (hand up high) the better
Mawbs Posted August 14, 2015 Posted August 14, 2015 from personal experience i can tell you the EVO fork is not good, the fork will get sticky after a month or so and then have very little small bump compliance. However if you do what i did and have the FiT damper installed then it is a whole different story and works like a charm.
mtbride Posted August 14, 2015 Posted August 14, 2015 from personal experience i can tell you the EVO fork is not good, the fork will get sticky after a month or so and then have very little small bump compliance. However if you do what i did and have the FiT damper installed then it is a whole different story and works like a charm. So you installed it on the existing EVO fork, what was the cost of this?
Mawbs Posted August 14, 2015 Posted August 14, 2015 yes it fits straight in cost was R3500 ( done at bike shop ) and thats with all new oil as well
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