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animals eat whatever they choose. simple, isn't it! would you have "zeroed" me for that?

ah well, hang in there man!

 

now back to the toic?

any useful advice?

 

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Hi Rod, looks like you may have blown a seal. What you can as a temp measure ,or maybe even a fix, is to slide the seal up buy using a flat bladed screw driver do this by gently inserting it between the seal and the fork. Pry it off. See how much crud is actually in the fork. Wipe as much out as you can with toilet paper and shub some shock grease, manitou do one you can buy, in the hole. Re-apply seal and see what happens if it continues to givr you hassles, send it to your LBS.   

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I took my shock to Rock Shocks in CT. With postage and everything it cost about R500. They cleaned and serviced it. That shock was a dream after that. This was about 2 years ago. And it still feels good.

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Great idea Ipeens, only prob is that your fork was an RS and Rod's is a White Brothers. He'll have to have it sent off to the White agency, if there is one in SA. This is the expensive option more often than not most LBS's will be happy to do it at half the price.

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Shocks are shocks. Strip it down and fix the leak. If you have to get new seals, order some from White directly and have your lbs but it in. Azonic2008-04-28 01:51:09

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Shocks are shocks. Strip it down and fix the leak. If you have to get new seals' date=' order some from White directly and have your lbs but it in. [/quote']

 

Seals it will be - can fire off an email to WB, and get same ordered.

 

But what about a reputable 'fork-fixer' at a LBs - anyone got any suggestions?

 

My lbs is the one that was telling me "don't worry too much about it, its just a bit of oil/dust - is normal etc" - and they've been singing this song for a while now.

 

I'm pretty sure its more than that, and even if it isn't - want the peace of mind to have it checked out....

 

So, I won't be doing this through the only store I know - so please help me out with some suggestions...

 

 

Anyone know anything about the techies at the new Cycle Factory/North Island(?) store?

 

Ta!
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Okay, as the only person here that's owned one of these forks alloy me to say, I told you so!

Now, just service the damn thing yourself! You can obviously not touch the magic cartridge but you don't need to.

You've got the instruction manual right?

It really is pretty simple, then when you get the seals replace them, and while it's open replace the O-ring on the air chamber, it breaks quite easily.
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Shocks are shocks. Strip it down and fix the leak. If you have to get new seals' date=' order some from White directly and have your lbs but it in. [/quote']

 

Seals it will be - can fire off an email to WB, and get same ordered.

 

But what about a reputable 'fork-fixer' at a LBs - anyone got any suggestions?

 

My lbs is the one that was telling me "don't worry too much about it, its just a bit of oil/dust - is normal etc" - and they've been singing this song for a while now.

 

I'm pretty sure its more than that, and even if it isn't - want the peace of mind to have it checked out....

 

So, I won't be doing this through the only store I know - so please help me out with some suggestions...

 

 

Anyone know anything about the techies at the new Cycle Factory/North Island(?) store?

 

Ta!

 

Good idea, take it to Kyle! He's pretty good.
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It's obvious from the pics that the seals are shot - like some have said get new seals and replace - u got the service manul so just follow the instructions. Your local bikeshop mechanic knows less than you about the shock and he probably don't even have a manual?????

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Hi Rod' date=' looks like you may have blown a seal. What you can as a temp measure ,or maybe even a fix, is to slide the seal up buy using a flat bladed screw driver do this by gently inserting it between the seal and the fork. Pry it off. See how much crud is actually in the fork. Wipe as much out as you can with toilet paper and shub some shock grease, manitou do one you can buy, in the hole. Re-apply seal and see what happens if it continues to givr you hassles, send it to your LBS.   

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thats rude. maybe he was just eating ice-cream
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Thank you all the peoples.

 

Service it myself I think I will.

I mean - how difficult can it actually be?

 

Ha ha.

Ha.

 

Failing that, Kyle it is.

 

Now - for another silly question - seals/o-rings etc aside, what is not covered in the manual is the oil...

 

What oil should I look at putting back in?

Or should it be grease?

Or oil and grease?

Viscocity? Brand name etc.

And where to get?

 

Oh - I do so like ice cream.
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I am going to take a stab in the dark here...

 

It should use the fork oil that we use on motorbikes. They come in different viscosity or weight. 2.5, 5, 7.5 and I think 10 as well. I would not know what weight the MTB would use.

 

I do have about 900ml of SAE 2.5 fork fluid that you can have, if it's the right weight. I needed it to repair a steering damper that was leaking, and it was the smallest I could find.

 

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Check with WB what weight suspension oil you need - Fox uses 7 weight.  You can get at motorcycle shop, or order through LBS from Fox.

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Okay' date=' as the only person here that's owned one of these forks alloy me to say, I told you so!

Now, just service the damn thing yourself! You can obviously not touch the magic cartridge but you don't need to.

You've got the instruction manual right?

It really is pretty simple, then when you get the seals replace them, and while it's open replace the O-ring on the air chamber, it breaks quite easily.
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Now now TitusTi....

 

Didn't you tell me not to go with the WB because of problems you'd had with a WB 29" fork(?) - that reliability issues and bad back-up service from WB was the order of the day?

 

Well I can't vouch for what you had go wrong with yours - but when I consider I've gone for more than two years now without a major (or minor, for that matter) service, through all sorts of conditions and terrain, with a not-so-light rider on its back, without so much as a moment of problems - then I remain very happy that I chose to ignore youBig%20smile!

 

The "set-and-forget" factor, and the not-so-insignificant point that it actually works, far outweighs anything else - and I would be hard-pressed to go any other route when I eventually decide to upgrade...

 

2+ years, and I've finally sprung a leak, a small one at that - which would probably have been prevented had I serviced - in my books, is cetainly nothing out of the ordinary....

 

That all aside, I went over to North Island, and they pretty much told me they send all forks to the relevant dealers - which doesn't really help me, since the local WB 'dealer' would simply send it back to the states... I don't want to wait that long, or pay that much.

 

Apart from a "Adri"(?) that works out at the Westlake Cycle Lab, and who is apparently very good at servicing various forks - reckon I'm going to drop WB's an email explaining what's wrong - and find out what I would probably need to get in advance - and then will be tackling it myself over a weekend....

 

Nothing ventured - nothing gained...

 

 
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I am going to take a stab in the dark here...

It should use the fork oil that we use on motorbikes. They come in different viscosity or weight. 2.5' date=' 5, 7.5 and I think 10 as well. I would not know what weight the MTB would use.

I do have about 900ml of SAE 2.5 fork fluid that you can have, if it's the right weight. I needed it to repair a steering damper that was leaking, and it was the smallest I could find.
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Thanks!

 

Will keep you in mind once I've confirmed....
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ROdTI: I havent read all 4 pages here but with regards to your fork but here is what I can see in your pics:

 

You have similiar problems with motocross bikes, dirt seems to of gotten under the seal and damaged your fork seals ala the leaking and the dirt has damaged the czrtridge on your fork. You can do 1 of 3 things:

 

1st: Take X-ray, camera spool and clean out the dirt from the fork seals, this often is a cheap and easy thing to do as it will stop the leaking.

 

2nd: Replace fork seals and oil, just make sure as pocketbike above has posted you hve the right oil wieght and height in the forks. If its wrong the forks will be to plush or to harsh in the stroke.

 

3rd: With regards to the scratches, I cant see how deep they really are but wih MX forks you can use a very fine water paper and sand away the damage. As I said I dont know how deep it is.

 

Oh the 4th thing you can do is get a new fork.

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