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Enduro bike for dummies (me)


Reden

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Busy building a play thing for Enuduro and more.

More a DH frame but with 170mm double crown fork.

 

Expanding from this post.

New to downhill/enduro riding

https://community.bikehub.co.za/topic/157686-new-to-downhillenduro-riding/

 

 

What gearing would be reqired. My bike might be heavier than it should be.

Crank length? 175mm? or would 170mm do.

Derailer would be what I have. 10SPD Deore long cage with 11-36 SRAM 1070 cassette.

 

32t up front or should I get expander sprockets.

Frame and fork as below.

 

Wheels & tyres must still be obtained.

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170mm would be perfect. I'm even thinking of going 165 for the extra clearance. Just check the BB shell size. May be 83mm instead of 73mm... 

 

Your derailleur and cassette will be fine, and 32t iis cool to start with. 

 

Wheels - just check, you may need a 150mm rear wheel. Just check the spacing. You don't want to go for a wheelset and it ends up being a different size to what you need. 

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170mm would be perfect. I'm even thinking of going 165 for the extra clearance. Just check the BB shell size. May be 83mm instead of 73mm... 

 

Your derailleur and cassette will be fine, and 32t iis cool to start with. 

 

Wheels - just check, you may need a 150mm rear wheel. Just check the spacing. You don't want to go for a wheelset and it ends up being a different size to what you need. 

Nice to know. Only things I need for test run is rear wheel, short stem, chain guide and big front disk. Brakes will be Magura MT2's for now.

Still need to find cranks with guard on and proper front wheel. Current wheel comes of a Giant MTB but not strong enough. 

Rear disk will be 180mm.

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That frame's very heavy, but primarily, there's not much support from the rear suspension for even a whiff of pedalling efficiency. You'd be better off getting a 2010 giant trance rather than try and run that frame. Make no mistake, it will do just fine on the descents, but you are going to suffer over distance and climbs.

 

But if that's all that you got at the moment, then its all that you got. Sometimes, we just have to go to war with the army we got.

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Just check the rear wheel story. That Extension had a fairly agricultural rear axle setup if I remember correctly. Hopefully you've got the axle?

Agricultural?

 

TBH, i can't remember much about my Xtension, but from the wafts of vague memories swirling into focus, it was a standard 12x150 bolt-thru axle. 

However, first caution that came to mind was : "dont break the hanger!"

 

cost me some serious mint to get one machined out.

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Agricultural?

 

TBH, i can't remember much about my Xtension, but from the wafts of vague memories swirling into focus, it was a standard 12x150 bolt-thru axle. 

However, first caution that came to mind was : "dont break the hanger!"

 

cost me some serious mint to get one machined out.

Ah. Yes you had one hey.

 

The one Clint had had this huge axle with big ass bolts holding it. Hence the agricultural comment.

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Hello Reden

 

Congrats on your frame.

I have the same one only mine is rebranded Azonic version.

 

Here is some helpful info on your frame.

 

http://i.imgur.com/1XXfGMi.jpg

 

I'm sorry to burst your bubble but this is a shuttle/downhill/freeride bike. Nothing else.

Its meant to be pointed down at all times. It won't be a comfortable bike to climb at all or even pedal on a straight road. Pedaling this bike is meant for maintaining and/or accelerating super fast gravity induced speeds. She makes no sense doing anything else and is a dog to slog around for use as any normal trail bike since she weighs about as much as a small country. It is by no means a point and shoot bike. Its more of a 'hang on for your life' kind of bike.

 

But put her in her element and she comes alive. She needs to go fast. Set up your suspension right and she will chew up big drops and rockgardens for breakfast. 

 

You're better off with a short range downhill or road bike cassette and shortcage RD.

 

If you wanna chat about the frame or need any help just pm me.

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Ah. Yes you had one hey.

 

The one Clint had had this huge axle with big ass bolts holding it. Hence the agricultural comment.

 

I left mine at Action Cycling when i got the M9: it might have gotten tossed out with the refuse..:/

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Ah. Yes you had one hey.

 

The one Clint had had this huge axle with big ass bolts holding it. Hence the agricultural comment.

 

Mine has a saint RD and the axle just screws straight into that through the dropout. no bolts, nuts, or hangar at all

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Mine has a saint RD and the axle just screws straight into that through the dropout. no bolts, nuts, or hangar at all

 

Interesting. Mine required a hanger, and the nuts on either end to lock the axle in place. My tool box still has the two 19mm spanners I bought specifically to be able to change out the rear wheel.

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Hello Reden

 

Congrats on your frame.

I have the same one only mine is rebranded Azonic version.

 

Here is some helpful info on your frame.

 

http://i.imgur.com/1XXfGMi.jpg

 

I'm sorry to burst your bubble but this is a shuttle/downhill/freeride bike. Nothing else.

Its meant to be pointed down at all times. It won't be a comfortable bike to climb at all or even pedal on a straight road. Pedaling this bike is meant for maintaining and/or accelerating super fast gravity induced speeds. She makes no sense doing anything else and is a dog to slog around for use as any normal trail bike since she weighs about as much as a small country. It is by no means a point and shoot bike. Its more of a 'hang on for your life' kind of bike.

 

But put her in her element and she comes alive. She needs to go fast. Set up your suspension right and she will chew up big drops and rockgardens for breakfast. 

 

You're better off with a short range downhill or road bike cassette and shortcage RD.

 

If you wanna chat about the frame or need any help just pm me.

Thanks. For me it is a toy and or play thing. Not meant to do well in the pedalling portion of Enduro's at all.

My approach is ride what I have at the least amount of money. I just bough a Santa Cruz Superlight (650b).

I'm going to war with tekkies and a shotgun.

 

Regarding the rear suspension.

Let's see what can be done here. New air shock (if long enough) might do the trick. Either locked or on Trial setting.

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Thanks. For me it is a toy and or play thing. Not meant to do well in the pedalling portion of Enduro's at all.

My approach is ride what I have at the least amount of money. I just bough a Santa Cruz Superlight (650b).

I'm going to war with tekkies and a shotgun.

 

Regarding the rear suspension.

Let's see what can be done here. New air shock (if long enough) might do the trick. Either locked or on Trial setting.

 

That's ideal. She really is meant as a +1 bike. But as a primary or only steed you will grow tired of her quickly. Save it for shuttle days. You'll have a blast. 

 

As for the rear you're spoilt for choice really. Her rear travel ranges from about 180 to 220 depending on the shock installed and how your fix it to the frame. The frame and linkages have various mounting points to accomodate this. But the more rear travel you go for the steeper the effective head angle. 

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Forgot to mention. I also like old school Retro bikes.

I still have my Giant Sedona SE frame kept one side for later. Wanna add disk mounts on the back,

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Forgot to mention. I also like old school Retro bikes.

I still have my Giant Sedona SE frame kept one side for later. Wanna add disk mounts on the back,

 

Pic please.

 

My first 26" MTB was a Giant Sedona, 1992 model.

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