I am so confused with this country - Not Cycling

[Willehond]

Not so meaningful but at least it's catchy -

 

All my bags are packed' date=' I'm ready to go
I'm standin' here outside your door
I hate to wake you up to say goodbye

..........blah, blah, blah.....

'Cause I'm leaving on a jet plane
I don't know when I'll be back again
Oh, babe, I hate to go

[/quote']

 

This sung by u guy who died flying his jet plane....

Who? Ronnie van Zant?

 

Uhhhmmmm, no.  John Denver.

[Tumbleweed]

 

joe low, here's one you may like, and although it's about the mersey, i think the sentiment applies to this thread? 

 

life goes on day after day
hearts torn in every way

so ferry 'cross the mersey
cause this land's the place I love
and here I'll stay?

[bob_the_builder]

I know willehiond... just pulling your leg.

[Delgado]

 

joe low' date=' here's one you may like, and although it's about the mersey, i think the sentiment applies to this thread? 

 

life goes on day after day
hearts torn in every way

so ferry 'cross the mersey
cause this land's the place I love
and here I'll stay?

[/quote'] Gerrie!! Gerrie!! Gerrie!!

[Willehond]

I know willehiond... just pulling your leg.

 

You should not joke.  There are uninitiated and lyrically challenged people out there reading the Hub.  They will start weird and baseless rumours because btb said so.  Wield your power wisely dear bobster!

[bob_the_builder]

 

I know willehiond... just pulling your leg.

 

You should not joke.  There are uninitiated and lyrically challenged people out there reading the Hub.  They will start weird and baseless rumours because btb said so.  Wield your power wisely dear bobster!

 

Yeah, like hopefully now some people think old cliff the mailman from cheers is now a cyclist hating DJ on radio in sa

 

[Willehond]

I know willehiond... just pulling your leg.

 

You should not joke.  There are uninitiated and lyrically challenged people out there reading the Hub.  They will start weird and baseless rumours because btb said so.  Wield your power wisely dear bobster!

Yeah' date=' like hopefully now some people think old cliff the mailman from cheers is now a cyclist hating DJ on radio in sa
[/quote']

 

I heard Norm is MC'ing at corporate functions these days since his double DJ gig with Cliff went sour...

 

BTW it looks like all meaningful contributions have dried up on this thread!

[Slowbee]

I know willehiond... just pulling your leg.

 

You should not joke.  There are uninitiated and lyrically challenged people out there reading the Hub.  They will start weird and baseless rumours because btb said so.  Wield your power wisely dear bobster!

Yeah' date=' like hopefully now some people think old cliff the mailman from cheers is now a cyclist hating DJ on radio in sa
[/quote']

 

cliff is in SA ??????

 

i need his signature !!

[fiasm]

 

joe low' date=' here's one you may like, and although it's about the mersey, i think the sentiment applies to this thread? 

 

life goes on day after day
hearts torn in every way

so ferry 'cross the mersey
cause this land's the place I love
and here I'll stay?

[/quote']

 

karaoke, anyone?! 

[xak1]

I am in the exports industry and have travelled to 64 countries in the past 5 years.  I think most of us loose sight of that people are different.  Talking to young Swedes (which according to surveys is the best country from a living standard point of view), they all want to leave Sweden - the reason is that things are so organised and controlled, that there are no real opportunities - you study, get a job and work there for the rest of your life, and everybody has a similar standard of living, nobody poor and nobody too rich.  Some people thrive in an environment like that.  Others need more excitement and danger - look at where all the "new" big money is made - India, China, Brazil, and yes South Africa (guys get rich overnight).  Its like in any business, the more the risk, the more the opportunity to win big, and loose big.  If you look at SA from this perspective, the uncertainty, Eskom, etc. creates a chaotic enviornment - this is where some people see opportunity, rather than sit back and moan.  Where else in the world would you get overnight millionaires from the setting up and selling of alternative energy sources.

 

I also believe that because of the relatively more complex environment in SA (higher uncertainty, added burden of BEE, etc.), it creates some of the best managers in the world.  An international recruitment agency tried to recruit me to Australia earlier in the year.  He indicated to me that SA is their first choice for recruiting executives from, as they are still some of the best in the world.  Last year they recruited 37 executives from SA.  Interesting is that they also placed 8 executives from the USA, UK and Australia in SA - he said these guys see the opportunity to rapidly advance their careers by spending a few years in SA, picking up skills, which will take years for them to pick up in their own countries, as there jobs are well defined in a fairly stable environment, resulting in stagnation.

 

In the end, there is no right or wrong.  Some people thrive in a stable environment, some thrive in chaos - some thrive playing golf, some thrive in riding a bicycle - some thrive riding a road bike and some thrive riding a MTB - they are all ok!

[Tumbleweed]

I know willehiond... just pulling your leg.

 

You should not joke.  There are uninitiated and lyrically challenged people out there reading the Hub.  They will start weird and baseless rumours because btb said so.  Wield your power wisely dear bobster!

Yeah' date=' like hopefully now some people think old cliff the mailman from cheers is now a cyclist hating DJ on radio in sa
[/quote']

 

cliff is in SA ??????

 

i need his signature !!

 

big secret: bob the builder is cliff. i'm norm. we'll do a signing at the keg&kingfisher tomorrow arfie. 

[bob_the_builder]

 

[Slowbee]

I know willehiond... just pulling your leg.

 

You should not joke.  There are uninitiated and lyrically challenged people out there reading the Hub.  They will start weird and baseless rumours because btb said so.  Wield your power wisely dear bobster!

Yeah' date=' like hopefully now some people think old cliff the mailman from cheers is now a cyclist hating DJ on radio in sa
[/quote']

 

cliff is in SA ??????

 

i need his signature !!

 

big secret: bob the builder is cliff. i'm norm. we'll do a signing at the keg&kingfisher tomorrow arfie. 

 

can i send a self addressed envelope for you to sign pls?

pls ? pls ?pls?

[Slowbee]

I am in the exports industry and have travelled to 64 countries in the past 5 years.  I think most of us loose sight of that people are different.  Talking to young Swedes (which according to surveys is the best country from a living standard point of view)' date=' they all want to leave Sweden - the reason is that things are so organised and controlled, that there are no real opportunities - you study, get a job and work there for the rest of your life, and everybody has a similar standard of living, nobody poor and nobody too rich.  Some people thrive in an environment like that.  Others need more excitement and danger - look at where all the "new" big money is made - India, China, Brazil, and yes South Africa (guys get rich overnight).  Its like in any business, the more the risk, the more the opportunity to win big, and loose big.  If you look at SA from this perspective, the uncertainty, Eskom, etc. creates a chaotic enviornment - this is where some people see opportunity, rather than sit back and moan.  Where else in the world would you get overnight millionaires from the setting up and selling of alternative energy sources.

 

I also believe that because of the relatively more complex environment in SA (higher uncertainty, added burden of BEE, etc.), it creates some of the best managers in the world.  An international recruitment agency tried to recruit me to Australia earlier in the year.  He indicated to me that SA is their first choice for recruiting executives from, as they are still some of the best in the world.  Last year they recruited 37 executives from SA.  Interesting is that they also placed 8 executives from the USA, UK and Australia in SA - he said these guys see the opportunity to rapidly advance their careers by spending a few years in SA, picking up skills, which will take years for them to pick up in their own countries, as there jobs are well defined in a fairly stable environment, resulting in stagnation.

 

In the end, there is no right or wrong.  Some people thrive in a stable environment, some thrive in chaos - some thrive playing golf, some thrive in riding a bicycle - some thrive riding a road bike and some thrive riding a MTB - they are all ok!

[/quote']

 

xak1 - do you have a job for me ?

 

 

[bob_the_builder]

 

I know willehiond... just pulling your leg.

 

You should not joke.  There are uninitiated and lyrically challenged people out there reading the Hub.  They will start weird and baseless rumours because btb said so.  Wield your power wisely dear bobster!

 

Yeah' date=' like hopefully now some people think old cliff the mailman from cheers is now a cyclist hating DJ on radio in sa

[/quote']

 

cliff is in SA ??????

 

i need his signature !!

 

big secret: bob the builder is cliff. i'm norm. we'll do a signing at the keg&kingfisher tomorrow arfie. 

 

can i send a self addressed envelope for you to sign pls?

pls ? pls ?pls?

 

Better not be an empty envelope

 

[Tumbleweed]

 

joe low' date=' here's one you may like, and although it's about the mersey, i think the sentiment applies to this thread? 

 

life goes on day after day
hearts torn in every way

so ferry 'cross the mersey
cause this land's the place I love
and here I'll stay?

[/quote']

 

karaoke, anyone?! 

 

it's singalong time?(where's delgado when you need him?methinks he's snuck off to rush)

 

join in anytime?

 

i feel it in my fingers,

i feel it in my toes?

 

(ps, bob, we can milk the cliff and norm thing for plenty free drinks?)