Gen Posted September 9, 2016 Posted September 9, 2016 I may be missing something, but I haven't seen any news of Wanty Groupe Gobert apllying for World Tour status. They are miles ahead on the Pro-continental scene, but if they don't apply there would be no reason to relegate Dimension Data.Relegation implementation only from end of 2017
VicanZA Posted September 9, 2016 Posted September 9, 2016 I think DD will be just fine as long as the pockets are deep!
VicanZA Posted September 9, 2016 Posted September 9, 2016 Relegation implementation only from end of 2017Gen are there even enough teams out there for them to implement something like this? the money in cycling only allows the guys at the top to eat from woollies the rest shop at PnP. the total salary bill for all rides at TDF was less than PSG first team squad!
Gen Posted September 9, 2016 Posted September 9, 2016 Gen are there even enough teams out there for them to implement something like this? the money in cycling only allows the guys at the top to eat from woollies the rest shop at PnP. the total salary bill for all rides at TDF was less than PSG first team squad!If they will actually implement it end of 2017 is another question... that was just the latest that they were planning and agreed on-apparently.... But it and other changes will only happen if ASO say so[emoji6] Here's an article about the changes.. http://cyclingtips.com/2016/06/civil-war-averted-uci-aso-reach-agreement-over-worldtour-reforms/
Ofaniy Posted September 9, 2016 Posted September 9, 2016 If they drop, they'll still be at all the ASO races, DD being a French company. I still maintain, they should have started focusing on GC this year already and bought a decent rider for 2017...
Gen Posted September 9, 2016 Posted September 9, 2016 If they drop, they'll still be at all the ASO races, DD being a French company. I still maintain, they should have started focusing on GC this year already and bought a decent rider for 2017...Eeerm[emoji85] Last I checked Nippon had bought them out and DD headquarters still in Joburg? Or have things changed?
Cav' Posted September 9, 2016 Posted September 9, 2016 worrying at least .... see below extract or read the article here .....http://cyclingtips.com/2016/09/why-dimension-datas-place-in-the-worldtour-is-under-threat/ In mid-August, it wasn’t just Tinkoff and IAM set to disappear from the WorldTour ranks. By losing its Merida sponsorship to the Bahrain project, the team currently known as Lampre-Merida seemed destined to downgrade to Pro Continental status. But then the team was bought by TJ Sports Group and became a player again in the race for a 2017 WorldTour license.“That was a surprise for everyone,” admits Douglas Ryder, general Manager of the Dimension Data team. Now, his team may have a problem. Despite being one of the most successful teams in the WorldTour it is at the bottom of the team ranking. As a result, its WorldTour license is at risk.Bahrain-Merida was caught off-guard too. There was an agreement for that team to buy most of Lampre’s infrastructure, along with the contracts of the riders set to be part of Lampre in 2017. Now that agreement is no longer in place and the riders seem set to ride for Giuseppe Saronni’s TJ Sport/Lampre setup next season.A particular case is that of Louis Meintjes. He is close to fellow South African Brent Copeland, Lampre-Merida’s current general manager and future general manager of Bahrain-Merida. Meintjes was set to follow Copeland to Bahrain but now doesn’t know what his future holds. “Still unclear,” he told CyclingTips at the Vuelta a España.Wonder if the new Chinese Lampre team will be riding Chinese Colnago's..
rock Posted September 9, 2016 Posted September 9, 2016 "...despite being one of the most successful teams in the WorldTour it is at the bottom of the team ranking..." 1 1 MOVISTAR TEAM (MOV) ESP 11522 2 TINKOFF (TNK) RUS 10463 3 TEAM SKY (SKY) GBR 10194 4 BMC RACING TEAM (BMC) USA 9115 5 TEAM KATUSHA (KAT) RUS 7866 6 ETIXX - QUICK STEP (EQS) BEL 7347 7 ORICA-BIKEEXCHANGE (OBE) AUS 6388 8 TREK - SEGAFREDO (TFS) USA 5319 10 FDJ (FDJ) FRA 46810 9 LOTTO SOUDAL (LTS) BEL 4591 11 ASTANA PRO TEAM (AST) KAZ 45012 12 TEAM LOTTO NL - JUMBO (TLJ) NED 4083 13 AG2R LA MONDIALE (ALM) FRA 40114 15 TEAM GIANT - ALPECIN (TGA) GER 38915 14 LAMPRE - MERIDA (LAM) ITA 36916 16 CANNONDALE-DRAPAC PRO CYCLING TEAM (CDT) USA 366 17 17 IAM CYCLING (IAM) SUI 31718 18 TEAM DIMENSION DATA (DDD) RSA 252 http://www.uci.html.infostradasports.com/images/nix.gif
Cav' Posted September 9, 2016 Posted September 9, 2016 "...despite being one of the most successful teams in the WorldTour it is at the bottom of the team ranking..." 1 1 MOVISTAR TEAM (MOV) ESP 11522 2 TINKOFF (TNK) RUS 10463 3 TEAM SKY (SKY) GBR 10194 4 BMC RACING TEAM (BMC) USA 9115 5 TEAM KATUSHA (KAT) RUS 7866 6 ETIXX - QUICK STEP (EQS) BEL 7347 7 ORICA-BIKEEXCHANGE (OBE) AUS 6388 8 TREK - SEGAFREDO (TFS) USA 5319 10 FDJ (FDJ) FRA 46810 9 LOTTO SOUDAL (LTS) BEL 4591 11 ASTANA PRO TEAM (AST) KAZ 45012 12 TEAM LOTTO NL - JUMBO (TLJ) NED 4083 13 AG2R LA MONDIALE (ALM) FRA 40114 15 TEAM GIANT - ALPECIN (TGA) GER 38915 14 LAMPRE - MERIDA (LAM) ITA 36916 16 CANNONDALE-DRAPAC PRO CYCLING TEAM (CDT) USA 366 17 17 IAM CYCLING (IAM) SUI 31718 18 TEAM DIMENSION DATA (DDD) RSA 252 http://www.uci.html.infostradasports.com/images/nix.gif 1 CAVENDISH Mark 802 BOASSON HAGEN Edvald 723 SIUTSOU Kanstantsin 604 CUMMINGS Stephen 385 RENSHAW Mark 22
Gen Posted September 9, 2016 Posted September 9, 2016 1 CAVENDISH Mark 802 BOASSON HAGEN Edvald 723 SIUTSOU Kanstantsin 604 CUMMINGS Stephen 385 RENSHAW Mark 22ProcyclingStats use a different calculation than the UCI ? Actually now would be a good time for someone to explain to me how the team points are calculated .. does a % of the riders points go towards the teams points.?
Ofaniy Posted September 9, 2016 Posted September 9, 2016 Eeerm[emoji85] Last I checked Nippon had bought them out and DD headquarters still in Joburg? Or have things changed?mmm, you are correct, and Nippon is Eastern I think.... Maybe it's because DD sponsors LeTour... My bad
Cav' Posted September 9, 2016 Posted September 9, 2016 ProcyclingStats use a different calculation than the UCI ? Actually now would be a good time for someone to explain to me how the team points are calculated .. does a % of the riders points go towards the teamspoints.? http://www.procyclingstats.com/rankings.php?c=1&filter=1&id=16383&nation=&class=WT&compare_to_id=0 http://www.procyclingstats.com/rankings.php?c=1&id=uci_worldtour_teams_20160909 PCS hands out their own points like skittels.
Gen Posted September 9, 2016 Posted September 9, 2016 http://www.procyclingstats.com/rankings.php?c=1&filter=1&id=16383&nation=&class=WT&compare_to_id=0 http://www.procyclingstats.com/rankings.php?c=1&id=uci_worldtour_teams_20160909 PCS hands out their own points like skittels.[emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23]
Gen Posted September 10, 2016 Posted September 10, 2016 It's getting crazy http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/rider-prices-rise-as-teams-reach-panic-over-worldtour-points/?utm_content=buffer71f22&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
Patchelicious Posted September 10, 2016 Posted September 10, 2016 DD Will be at the GTs stop stressing. If you sponsor races, you tend to get invited.
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