Gen Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) Yah, for sure, I agree, QS have played some odd tactics lately, putting someone in the break then ostensibly telling him not to work is unfathomable to me.QS out foxed themselves on Sunday. Obviously the plan was to ride on Sagan's wheel to the end and if the break got caught to launch one of there other riders for the win.. unfortunately for them Sagan decided.. well screw you all I am not dragging you to the line and covering all the gaps this time round.. very negative racing and they went home with nothing. I laughed Terpstra said they just need some luck.. flip man working with the champ will almost guarantee you a shot at the win.. what more do you want[emoji53] Edited March 28, 2017 by Gen GrumpyOldGuy 1
Gen Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 In other news.. *kinda sort of on topic..kinda* GILBERT won the opening stage of De Panne..
'Dale Posted March 28, 2017 Author Posted March 28, 2017 In other news.. *kinda sort of on topic..kinda* GILBERT won the opening stage of De Panne..PhilGil looking good hey Keep forgetting he's a Stepper now that he's in his ???????? colours Gen 1
Gen Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 PhilGil looking good hey Keep forgetting he's a Stepper now that he's in his ???????? coloursLooking very good
GrumpyOldGuy Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 Ja at GW I felt that they knew that there would be no bunch sprint for the win from the 20k mark. So yes odd tactics. Very odd. However at DDV they got their tactics almost spot on in getting the sting out of Durbridge's legs as he was the biggest threat in a sprint and got a 1 2 for their efforts. So QS has been a bit schizophrenic this season ito tactics imho. Sent from my SM-J200H using TapatalkYah, I didnt watch the entire DDV but from the bits I saw Durbridge was also sitting on for a long time, so one assumes, by not contributing he saw the writing on the wall and knew they would play the old "one / two" so he didnt really have much chance, but I dont think he raced negatively he just hoped to stay a little fresher and did try and bridge over, so he put in the effort,... but by then it was a done deal.
'Dale Posted March 28, 2017 Author Posted March 28, 2017 (edited) Driedaagse De Panne: PhilGil makes the winning break up De Muur of Geraadsbergen with 18 kms to go ???????????????????? https://youtu.be/GJ87JXRbSK0 Edited March 28, 2017 by 'Dale
GrumpyOldGuy Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 QS out foxed themselves on Sunday. Obviously the plan was to ride on Sagan's wheel to the end and if the break got caught to launch one of there other riders for the win.. unfortunately for them Sagan decided.. well screw you all I am not dragging you to the line and covering all the gaps this time round.. very negative racing and they went home with nothing. I laughed Terpstra said they just need some luck.. flip man working with the champ will almost guarantee you a shot at the win.. what more do you want[emoji53]Yah, some (like Gary Player ) would say, you make your own luck,.....Terpstra wouldnt assist to catch the break but he was happy to chase Sagan down, no luck there, its a planned action, and just very negative racing from QS in my opinion.Maybe as you say they were hoping the break would get caught, but with around a minute to play with it was a long shot, had Terpstra contributed he may still have lost, but at least he would have had a chance, to me anyway thats a much better option than sitting 20 seconds back where you certainly dont have any chance. Gen 1
Mntboy Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 Yah, I didnt watch the entire DDV but from the bits I saw Durbridge was also sitting on for a long time, so one assumes, by not contributing he saw the writing on the wall and knew they would play the old "one / two" so he didnt really have much chance, but I dont think he raced negatively he just hoped to stay a little fresher and did try and bridge over, so he put in the effort,... but by then it was a done deal.Durbridge also had very little help from the Astana rider, Lutsenko iirc. Durbridge tried covering the attacks by both Gilbert and Lampaert and in the last 10k's had nothing to give. Even when they were just keeping the break going Durbo did his bit with the pacemaking. Durbo was just plain unlucky not for lack of effort but because of superior numbers against him. Sent from my SM-J200H using Tapatalk GrumpyOldGuy 1
GrumpyOldGuy Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 Durbridge also had very little help from the Astana rider, Lutsenko iirc. Durbridge tried covering the attacks by both Gilbert and Lampaert and in the last 10k's had nothing to give. Even when they were just keeping the break going Durbo did his bit with the pacemaking. Durbo was just plain unlucky not for lack of effort but because of superior numbers against him. Sent from my SM-J200H using TapatalkYah, agreed, but unlike Terpsta I didn't feel he raced negatively, he really tried, but I think he well knew his chances were slim, the numbers were definitely against him. Mntboy 1
Mntboy Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 QS out foxed themselves on Sunday. Obviously the plan was to ride on Sagan's wheel to the end and if the break got caught to launch one of there other riders for the win.. unfortunately for them Sagan decided.. well screw you all I am not dragging you to the line and covering all the gaps this time round.. very negative racing and they went home with nothing. I laughed Terpstra said they just need some luck.. flip man working with the champ will almost guarantee you a shot at the win.. what more do you want[emoji53]Like GOG and I noted it's odd tactics from QS. They really need to remember that Sagan isn't the only major player at the spring classics especially with the form that both Kwia and GVA has shown so far. And it was definitely clear that it was going to be the break that was going to contest the win and as such it would have been more beneficial for Terpstra to them be QS's man for the win. Which should've meant working with Sagan rather than just sitting in on his wheel. So very odd tactics from them. Sent from my SM-J200H using Tapatalk Gen 1
Mntboy Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 Yah, agreed, but unlike Terpsta I didn't feel he raced negatively, he really tried, but I think he well knew his chances were slim, the numbers were definitely against him.Yes indeed. Gotta respect him for racing and not just sitting in. Durbridge can become a real contender at the classics! Fine fine racer. Sent from my SM-J200H using Tapatalk
Mntboy Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 Die Ronde is a big one .. https://youtu.be/iF0sIW0JH5IMoer groot! The most important race for the Belge. They'll desperately want one of their own to win it! Sent from my SM-J200H using Tapatalk
meathead Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 One of the cool features I noticed yesterday was the in-car camera on some teams (Lotto Soudal, Trek Segafredo - can't remember the others). Marginally off topic it's why I enjoy Orica Scotts's backstage pass they also show what happens in the team car. No cracks on the marginal gains
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