Wheelie87 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Hi, So I've posted before on more or less the same topic. https://community.bikehub.co.za/topic/166307-specialized-camber-29-vs-camber-comp-29/?do=findComment&comment=3066013 Have to make a call now and narrowed it down to these four bikes as the 2017 models are now available at R25k Scott Spark 960 / Camber / Trek Fuel http://www.vbike.co.za/scott-spark-960-29-2017/https://www.specialized.com/za/en/men/bikes/mountain/menscamber29/129085https://www.specialized.com/za/en/camber-29/106426 Previously I was convinced on taking the YT Jeffsy but having ridden my mate's I'm not that sure It's not exactly what I had in might and bobs a lot going up. In short, looking for a more trail dual suspension 29" XL bike capable of going up just as well as going down for around R25k max. Haha Thoughts on the 970 ? Only introduced now in the 2018 range.... https://www.scott-sports.com/za/en/product/scott-spark-970-bike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr lee Posted September 18, 2017 Share How much do you weigh? I was initially going to go for a 2016 Scott spark 960 which had the same or similar rear shock (the fusion). After a bit of research I decided against it as I weighed in at 125Kg's (at the time) and was not confident that it would handle the higher pressure required to handle a heavier rider. I would rather stick with Rockhox or Fox on the rear..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr lee Posted September 18, 2017 Share I do like that Scott are sticking with the times now and using wider 25mm rims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelie87 Posted September 18, 2017 Share How much do you weigh? I was initially going to go for a 2016 Scott spark 960 which had the same or similar rear shock (the fusion). After a bit of research I decided against it as I weighed in at 125Kg's (at the time) and was not confident that it would handle the higher pressure required to handle a heavier rider. I would rather stick with Rockhox or Fox on the rear.....85KG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr lee Posted September 18, 2017 Share Should be ok then... Sorry I just assumed (mother of all F#@k ups ) that you were on the heavier side due to wanting an XL frame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Stewart Posted September 18, 2017 Share I got the Camber in May. That bike is the bomb!You will NOT regret it. As for wheels, 29mm inner rim width. That bike is solid on the trails, climbs like my hardtail (i.e. no bobbing), and descends like the trail beast that it is. The 120mm shock travel is just perfectly suited to a mixture of trail and xc riding, and allows one to spend long hours in the saddle without getting tired. On Saturday, I had a solid four hours in the saddle, and felt awesome at the end. My camber is equally at home in Jonkershoek as it is at Koeberg and everything in between. duanelr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverInTheRoad Posted September 18, 2017 Share Save more money and get a Camber Comp. Robbie Stewart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duanelr Posted September 18, 2017 Share I'm also looking for a 29er xc bike with more trail oriented geometry and my mind is made up: as soon as I have the cash i'm getting the the 950 scott. what convinced me was the std dropper post and the relatively relaxed head angle at 67deg i think. edit: i haven't even seen these other bikes Edited September 18, 2017 by duanelr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Stewart Posted September 18, 2017 Share I'm also looking for a 29er xc bike with more trail oriented geometry and my mind is made up: as soon as I have the cash i'm getting the the 950 scott. what convinced me was the std dropper post and the relatively relaxed head angle at 67deg i think. edit: i haven't even seen these other bikes In all fairness, then your mind can not be made up yet, surely? Dropper post should not be the deciding factor in my opinion. First go ride them all, then decide. You are about to throw some big money at a whim, not a solid decision. You may end up regretting your decision. duanelr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Stewart Posted September 18, 2017 Share This one instead. https://www.specialized.com/za/en/men/bikes/mountain/menscambercomp29/129000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myth Posted September 18, 2017 Share I got the Camber in May. That bike is the bomb! You will NOT regret it. As for wheels, 29mm inner rim width. That bike is solid on the trails, climbs like my hardtail (i.e. no bobbing), and descends like the trail beast that it is. The 120mm shock travel is just perfectly suited to a mixture of trail and xc riding, and allows one to spend long hours in the saddle without getting tired. On Saturday, I had a solid four hours in the saddle, and felt awesome at the end. My camber is equally at home in Jonkershoek as it is at Koeberg and everything in between.True this, I rode behind someone who was on a Camber a few weeks ago up Groenkloof and it looked quite competent at doing climbs...not to mention how much better off he was than my on my XC bike on the downhill sections... Robbie Stewart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Stewart Posted September 18, 2017 Share True this, I rode behind someone who was on a Camber a few weeks ago up Groenkloof and it looked quite competent at doing climbs...not to mention how much better off he was than my on my XC bike on the downhill sections... Since my Camber Comp. I have had a BIG injection of confidence, which resulted in an even bigger increase in skills. All in all, there is soooo much said about the camber on this forum, I had to test it for myself. My finding is that EVERYONE WAS RIGHT!!! It truly is a go-to bike for me that sits firmly in the space that Specialized intended for it, being midway between their xc Epics and all-mountain Stumpjumpers. The Camber (to me at least) is the best of both worlds. If one is so hard up on a dropper post, then save and get an aftermarket one. I too wanted one, but truth be told, I do not miss it yet, as I learned to ride properly without one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelie87 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Decisions decisions R25k is pretty much my limit No way I can justify another R10k at this point in my life I'm pretty set on the Trek now https://www.trekbikes.com/za/en_ZA/bikes/mountain-bikes/trail-mountain-bikes/fuel-ex/fuel-ex-5-29/p/2132600-2018/?colorCode=grey Can get the 2017 for R25k and the 2018 for R28k I've also just heard (and seen) amazing things about the Camber but always with one constraint YOU HAVE TO GET THE COMP and for me that now isn't an option so what the heck..I'll go for the Trek Dropper post will be awesome, but can't be deciding factor Robbie Stewart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted September 18, 2017 Share very good option, that Trek. Wheelie87 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelie87 Posted September 18, 2017 Share I'm also looking for a 29er xc bike with more trail oriented geometry and my mind is made up: as soon as I have the cash i'm getting the the 950 scott. what convinced me was the std dropper post and the relatively relaxed head angle at 67deg i think. edit: i haven't even seen these other bikeshttps://www.scott-sports.com/za/en/product/scott-spark-960-bike?article=265244009 Dropper is standard on the 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelie87 Posted September 18, 2017 Share So its come down to 2018 Scott Spark and the 2018 Trek EX 5 Scott RRP R31k (can get it for R27,5K)Trek RRP R30k (can get it for R27k) Leaning towards the Trek Will make the call tomorrow Have to say...Trek looking gooood Wheeelie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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