Willehond Posted August 27, 2008 Share Has anyone got any experience (not Google knowledge) of these different Tacx VR IDT models? Is the Fortius worth the 50% premium just because it has a better brake? I have ridden BMC fan's i-Magic and felt the hills were a bit easy, but I am not sure if the Fortius is that much beter (they claim you can simulate up to a 20% climb!). Also, are there any other VR trainers I should be considering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombie Posted August 27, 2008 Share I dont have the VR Tacx but the Tacx Flow power gel works great for me. I use Chasek DVD's to ride certain routes in SA or also the Chris Carmichael training (spinning) DVD's which are really good. If just rolling I watch race DVD's or something. I'm not sure if mine is upgradeble to the VR models, but I think the trainer you tested (BMC fan's) might have been incorrectly callibrated. Reason being that when I do level 7-9 climbs on my Taxc Flow I crap myself and it is definatley not easy at all. If the unit is correctly callibrated level 9 (which is the top level) should be equivalent to something like Vissershok which I find it is. I normally do only 1hr on this trainer as my legs start screaming for mercy on 45min already. Mine is callibrated on 0 exactly, took a while but got it right! It also gives all the other goodies like wattage , HR, etc, etc. I think the first level up where you can customize to VR is the same except for the VR part of it which just means more cables.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willehond Posted August 27, 2008 Share Thanks Zombie. Remember to pack yours when you fly! I find trainers utterly boring and liked the interaction on BMC fan's i-Magic, and I just want to make sure I get the one that will motivate me most AND give me a workout. I will have a look at the Flow. The i-magic apparently only has a max 5% climb simulation due to it's limited brake system and that's not enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabbathemutt007 Posted August 27, 2008 Share Has anyone got any experience (not Google knowledge) of these different Tacx VR IDT models? Is the Fortius worth the 50% premium just because it has a better brake? I have ridden BMC fan's i-Magic and felt the hills were a bit easy' date=' but I am not sure if the Fortius is that much beter (they claim you can simulate up to a 20% climb!). Also, are there any other VR trainers I should be considering?[/quote'] I seem to recall the Fortius is supposed to also have more accurate power readings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMCfan Posted August 27, 2008 Share Zombi might be correct! Thanks to some generous hubber, i sorted my TAXC! and it was a great tool this winter in the garage (together with the TdF in the background). It is a bit expensive, but hey i'm sure it will keep me busy for years to come! and made this years winter training worthwile (until i got flu and had to start all over again) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javadude Posted August 27, 2008 Share How much does the Fortius go for in SA? The Bikeradar review says its an awesome piece of kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombie Posted August 27, 2008 Share Willehond! Hang 5 before you buy. My buddy in Australia has an awesome indoor VR trainer and it can do really serious climbs (he trains Alpe Duez on it)and race simulations. Let me find out what he's got and if it is available in NDL which I'm sure it is. By the way, Taxc factory is about 3 blocks away from the office where I'll be working from in NDL! Wonder if they sell directly to public Zombie2008-08-27 02:12:28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawieO Posted August 27, 2008 Share I rode the iMagic for about 2 years or so. A really great system and the telemetry is FANTASTIC! The only reason I don't use one anymore is because the gym I trained at closed down, and I certainly am not going to spend that kind of cash on an IDT... I have an Elite Crono Wireless which absolutely rocks.Mate of mine has the Tacx Flow which he also rates highly.DawieO2008-08-27 02:19:10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big JD Posted August 27, 2008 Share Willehond, Go to Willie Engelbrecht. They have an Elite VR trainer all set up for you to test on a nice plasma and it is apperently better than the Tacx Fortius. A bit cheaper as well I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIRR Posted August 27, 2008 Share I use a Fortius (I think its a fortius as I do some 18% climbs on it) trainer a lot when I go to my coach. It is really nice in that you have the option to steer (even crash) with it which takes much of the boredom out of riding on an idt. The road feel is also reasonably realistic and you can letup a little going (just keep the pedals going with little force) down hills as the motor in the trainer keeps going.There are a few different virtual routes you can ride and adjust their difficulty (harder or easier gradient hills).So I'd say its a really nice trainer to use, but I haven't ridden the i-magic to compare. Problem is I don't think the distributers have or will get in again this year, something about a fault with the power brake unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newboy Posted August 27, 2008 Share I've got a I-Magic and a friend has got the Fortius. The simulation on climbs is more or less the same. The Fortius is much more realistic though. If you want to use it for power training I suggest the Fortius as it is much more accurate. I would pay the premium for the Fortius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombie Posted August 27, 2008 Share Check out http://www.racermateinc.com/computrainer.asp Computrainer. Very nice, about R20K in SA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMCfan Posted August 27, 2008 Share i bought mine on the hub about 1 1/2 ago for R4000 (i think), with the help of another hubber i updated the software (which i havent got with the original sale) and whoila.. i've got a brand new training system - steerer and the worx! i think new they go for about R10k here and thats without steerer (but please dont quote me) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombie Posted August 27, 2008 Share Geez, big hash for IDT's! I think I'll stick to the one I have and when in Europe I'll see if I can pick up a VR on sale somewhere These things are so outdated here, they propably go on 50% sale in Europe....or will when I get there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willehond Posted August 27, 2008 Share I use a Fortius (I think its a fortius as I do some 18% climbs on it) trainer a lot when I go to my coach. It is really nice in that you have the option to steer (even crash) with it which takes much of the boredom out of riding on an idt. The road feel is also reasonably realistic and you can letup a little going (just keep the pedals going with little force) down hills as the motor in the trainer keeps going. There are a few different virtual routes you can ride and adjust their difficulty (harder or easier gradient hills).So I'd say its a really nice trainer to use' date=' but I haven't ridden the i-magic to compare. Problem is I don't think the distributers have or will get in again this year, something about a fault with the power brake unit.[/quote'] The brake unit used to be a problem back in 2005/6, but they seemed to have sorted it out. Strange that they claim it is a problem again.... The software is the same and it seems that the only difference between the models is the brake system. Hence my question, but it sounds like it is worth it to go for the Fortius! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMCfan Posted August 27, 2008 Share Hey Zombie When are you going over? I'm sure the 'dogg' needs some younger cycling company (yes, its just ou ballies in his racing photos / reports). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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