Purpose of CSA

[Canaris]

Found this on the back end of the CSA website (and in their consitution):

 

Article 2:

2. VISION, MISSION AND OBJECTIVES

2.1 The Association has as its vision, mission and objectives, the promotion, growth, development and for these purposes, the control, of cycling in all its forms, including but not limited to:

2.1.1 competitive road racing and time trials;

2.1.2 recreational road cycling, including the UCI concept of "Cycling for All"

2.1.3 track cycling;

2.1.4 competitive off-road cycling including cross country mountain biking and downhill mountain biking;

2.1.5 recreational off-road cycling including cross country mountain biking and downhill mountain biking;

2.1.6 every kind of BMX cycling;

2.1.7 commuting;

2.1.8 touring.

Enough Said.

[NotSoBigBen]

Enough said but obviously not enough done I guess BigBen2008-09-25 03:33:11

[Ox_Wagon]

Yes pleeeeeeeeeese.

[Canaris]

notice how specific 2.1.1 is and notice how as the list grows on the drafters start getting bored or scared or confused, especially as they hit 2.1.4 and 2.1.5 and then lose the plot with 2.1.6 "every kind of BMX cycling".  They finally end their misery with 2.1.8 "touring", what ever that means.

 

They leave out "Trail"  and "indoor" cycling and Cycling soccer whcih are all addressed in UCI rules.

 

What do they mean by  "UCI concept of "Cycling for All" ".

[gianni]

 

What do they mean by  "UCI concept of "Cycling for All" ".

 

there's a thing called Google..

 

http://www.uci.ch/templates/UCI/UCI5/layout.asp?MenuId=MTI2MzM

 

 

Just out of interest, what should the other points have said ?

 

"Touring around on bicyles at a slower speed than racing cycling"

 

This all sounds a bit like you have too much time on your hands.

 

Why not propose something to them rather than nitpick ?

gianni2008-09-25 03:42:21

[Ox_Wagon]

There is no nitpicking. 

 

I would appreciate ANY actions that the CSA will take to make it safer for cyclist on the road irrespective of the discipline.

Ox_Wagon2008-09-25 03:48:31

[Canaris]

Cycling for all - Intro

 

UCI Golden Bike series: the ?World Cup? of Cycling for All

Numbering 8 at present, and perhaps growing in number in the future, the events that have gained the UCI Golden Bike label represent the world?s best-organised Cycling for All events. They meet strict criteria regarding the quality of organisation, specified in advance by the UCI, whose observance ensures that the participants benefit from a superior level of provisions. They must, however, be accessible to all types of cyclists.

 Cycle-sport events: races to cater for every taste

Very varied in terms of the number of kilometres, the type of route or the level of difficulty, the cycle-sport races included on the international calendar of ?Cycling for All? ? which can be accessed on the UCI Internet site ? are all fully-fledged races, that is they are timed and made official by the publication of a final classification.

Bike rides : discovering new regions, on bicycle and in groups

There is no time-keeping at these events, and they are intended to appeal to a wider public without a competitive spirit. Their marked route provides an opportunity to discover the joys of exploration by bicycle, either alone or as a family, without too many constraints. It is seen less as tourism ? the terms cycle-touring or cycle-tourism are disappearing ? than as gatherings of those who love the bicycle.

[Battler]

I suppose one can also ask what is the purpose of:

 

 

 

Swimming South Africa

 

Athletics South Africa

 

Cricket South Africa

 

 

 

etc etc etc

 

 

 

 

[Canaris]

 

What do they mean by  "UCI concept of "Cycling for All" ".

 

there's a thing called Google..

 

http://www.uci.ch/templates/UCI/UCI5/layout.asp?MenuId=MTI2MzM

 

 

Just out of interest' date=' what should the other points have said ?

 

"Touring around on bicyles at a slower speed than racing cycling"

 

This all sounds a bit like you have too much time on your hands.

 

Why not propose something to them rather than nitpick ?

[/quote']

 

As a statement of purpose this one is not good.  It starts of in clear detail when it comes to ROAD cycling, (but diferentiates between recreational and competitive, in respect to the fight between PPA and SACF), side steps TRACK cycling, pays some notice of Mountain Biking (acknowldeges only two disciplines, where RSA cyclists are active), fobs of BMX (despite having a world champ here) and makes passing reference to the lagest component of cyclists (commuters) and introduces TOURING to RSA in one word, dispite a implicit reference in "Cycling for All" statement earlier.

 

With such a statement of intent, where is the main focus of effort go? 

 

Yes nitpicking, but look back at the last few years and ask yourself, where has CSA focused its main efforts?

[Canaris]

I suppose one can also ask what is the purpose of:

Swimming South Africa
Athletics South Africa
Cricket South Africa

etc etc etc

 

I am not a cricketer or swimmer.

 

ASA had this debate earlier this year when ASA attacked Bruce Fordyce and Nic Bester.  The Road running guys were not impressed.

[pastapouch]

This is Africa, where everything can be done with the mouth, but when it comes to putting the hands in to do the work...

[Napalm]

At least positive things are happening at the CSA. They're slowly but surely getting rid of the dead wood.

 

The website is updated continuously, and not treated like a personal blog like the old one.

 

The online licensing will at least enable cyclist to update their own details, unlike the paper based system where incorrect information was replicated year after year after year.

 

[porky]

This is Africa' date=' where everything can be done with the mouth, but when it comes to putting the hands in to do the work...[/quote']

 

No, No, Cervelo - its "hands in the pockets" thats the issue.

 

SA organisations have notoriously short arms and rather deep pockets.!

[Old Dog]

Napalm said:At least positive things are happening at the CSA. They're slowly but surely getting rid of the dead wood.
Ther's a well known expression "Bullsh*t baffles brains"

When it comes to the real issues - what?

Very poor SA showing at the Junior Worlds despite being hosts.

Mediocre Olympics - no track team even entered.

No SA riders in this years Worlds doing time trials - 1st time ever!

 

Lets wait and see what the Road races come up with....... 

[PPWTF]

 

https://www.bikehub.co.za/forum_posts.asp?TID=33553

 

Check out the link to another hub thread - there's bloody inspiration all around us..... why is it these lot are not doing anything?

 

If the answer is "they are" then they need to get a new PR agency on board as it seems not a soul on the Hub has anything good to say about them, end even less about CSA initiatives to promote & develop cycling! Kinda fundamental for any governing body I think it's fair to say

 

PPWTF2008-09-26 04:09:06

[Napalm]

 

Napalm said:At least positive things are happening at the CSA. They're slowly but surely getting rid of the dead wood.

Ther's a well known expression "Bullsh*t baffles brains"

When it comes to the real issues - what?

Very poor SA showing at the Junior Worlds despite being hosts.

Mediocre Olympics - no track team even entered.

No SA riders in this years Worlds doing time trials - 1st time ever!

 

Lets wait and see what the Road races come up with....... 

 

A lot of things are happening away from public eyes within the CSA. There's a lot of passionate people involved in cycling. Unfortunately too many are passionate about looking after themselves than looking after the cyclist. They're slowly being worked out of the system.

 

Systems are being put in place to ensure that for instance Teams isn't just announced without a meeting of the relevant commission, or without the President's approval as was the case in previous administrations. 

 

Now, for your points. Junior Worlds. The technical support to the SA team was piss poor by all accounts.  Aside from that the team simply didn't perform. If the strongest team was selected and they didn't perform, is that still the CSA's fault?

 

The Olympics. Sifiso and Burry was some of the better performers in the team. Sifiso was on his way to a bronze medal, decided to rather go for gold, and crashed.

 

The CSA has a finite budget - they must pick events where they have realistic chance of performing well.  If you, however, want to finance attendance of the Outer Mongolian Driewiel Championships by having licence feeds raised to a couple of grand a year then you'll hear bitching and moaning.