TECHNICAL HELP-PEUGOT RAPPORT

[Slave]

When I mentioned some handling problems with my bike on this forum, someone suggested it was the headset bearings / cups that may be pitted.

 

Thanks, for the princely sum of ZAR30.00, I changed them and this has sorted the problem.

 

I got it second hand so I never thought to change them before. The bike behaves very dofferently now and it will get a full road test later this afternoon when I go out for a decent ride.

 

The short test yesterday though, was enough to convince me the bike is handling better and I can now also ride without hands on the handle bars all the time.

 

Now I just need to sort out the gearing, respray it and it will be good for another 10 years.

[Canaris]

You and JB are made from the same mold.

[Johan Bornman]

Ha. I love it when a plan comes together. 

[AndreZA]

 

[carlo_sg]

ahh... the one thing that peugeot made to last...

 

I remember my uncle had one of these "back in the day" I rode it once, was a serious upgrade on my NISHIKI mtb.

 

If you gonna ride it, dont forget to wear your leather helmet, and white socks with red stripes, up to your knees.

[Jean-Jay]

did my 1st and 2nd argus on a rapport

 

 

[Slave]

18 years ago, companies made stuff to last, unlike our modern society where everything (YES, EVERYTHING) is disposable.

 

When something breaks, it is made to be replaced, not repaired. The capitalist system is all about profit and if we can make more profit replacing, make it to be replaced. Disposable lighters, pedals, frames, wheels, gear clusters and all sorts of other things, including human life.

 

The bike is so Old it still has Rigida wheels and as far as I know, most of the stuff is original. Paintwork has chipped and this is why it needs some paint, but otherwise still in very good nick.

 

Part of the reason for deciding to keep it is that the chances of being bike-jacked are much smaller than if it was one of these new hi-tech, hi-price jobs.

 

All I need to know is how do I go about changing the gearing?

 

I will probably need a new rear wheel with more modern gear casette and probably change to STI's (the gear shift lever still sits on the frame.)

 

So, anyone got some Older tech that they want to unload and might fit my bike? What about those old STI's collecting dust?

 

Then I will strip it down, flat it and respray it. Silver and black.

 

I also need to change the crank bearing cups and they are not the "standard size" that one gets at the LBS today. I purchased two sets already and they are just about a mm the small. My current bearing cups are rather worn and pitted.

 

In all of the above, please bear in mind I am just the other fella, not Rockerfeller.

 

I am also trying to do my bit for local currency protection and keeping the balance of payments and trade deficit accounts on balance by not importing new stuff.

 

Let's go green and recycle.

[carlo_sg]

Bugger you too late, I just gave away a 12 speeder with perfectly operating Campag

[Canaris]

Ha. I love it when a plan comes together. 

 

JB definitely one of yours.

[VincentBikes]

 

18 years ago' date=' companies made stuff to last, unlike our modern society where everything (YES, EVERYTHING) is disposable.

 

When something breaks, it is made to be replaced, not repaired. The capitalist system is all about profit and if we can make more profit replacing, make it to be replaced. Disposable lighters, pedals, frames, wheels, gear clusters and all sorts of other things, including human life.

 

The bike is so Old it still has Rigida wheels and as far as I know, most of the stuff is original. Paintwork has chipped and this is why it needs some paint, but otherwise still in very good nick.

 

Part of the reason for deciding to keep it is that the chances of being bike-jacked are much smaller than if it was one of these new hi-tech, hi-price jobs.

 

All I need to know is how do I go about changing the gearing?

 

I will probably need a new rear wheel with more modern gear casette and probably change to STI's (the gear shift lever still sits on the frame.)

 

So, anyone got some Older tech that they want to unload and might fit my bike? What about those old STI's collecting dust?

 

Then I will strip it down, flat it and respray it. Silver and black.

 

I also need to change the crank bearing cups and they are not the "standard size" that one gets at the LBS today. I purchased two sets already and they are just about a mm the small. My current bearing cups are rather worn and pitted.

 

In all of the above, please bear in mind I am just the other fella, not Rockerfeller.

 

I am also trying to do my bit for local currency protection and keeping the balance of payments and trade deficit accounts on balance by not importing new stuff.

 

Let's go green and recycle.

[/quote']

 

This is where your problem starts - money wise - I have an old Alpina which I wanted to "modernise" but after looking at the costs involved, even second hand, I just ended up putting it on my in door trainer permanently as I could get a better second hand bike for more or less the same money.

 

[Slave]

Bugger you too late' date=' I just gave away a 12 speeder with perfectly operating Campag[/quote']

 

 When you snooze, you lose. Just maybe there is still hope though.

 

@Felty. I get what you're saying dude. Sometimes it is better to upgrade than change something that you have.

 

BUt then we can also argue "better the devil you know, than the one you don't know".

 

My Peugot was a big upgrade on my previous Pick n' Pay special, but even so, It was a dog until I changed the headset bearings and cups.

 

A coat of paint, some better gearing and the thing will be good for a long time to come. My problem is finding a decent 2nd hander that is the right sizeAdded to this, I am a philistine so hi-tech would be wasted on someone with my talent. I tend to be among the back bunch along for the fun of the ride and no threat at all to the serious competitors.

 

I ride for the sheer enjoyment of it (and sometime question how much joy there can be in a sore butt after being in the saddle for a few too many hours, but with some good roadwork and training, I just want to get to a sub 3 hr 94.7.

 

 

[VincentBikes]

 

Bugger you too late' date=' I just gave away a 12 speeder with perfectly operating Campag[/quote']

 

 When you snooze, you lose. Just maybe there is still hope though.

 

@Felty. I get what you're saying dude. Sometimes it is better to upgrade than change something that you have.

 

BUt then we can also argue "better the devil you know, than the one you don't know".

 

My Peugot was a big upgrade on my previous Pick n' Pay special, but even so, It was a dog until I changed the headset bearings and cups.

 

A coat of paint, some better gearing and the thing will be good for a long time to come. My problem is finding a decent 2nd hander that is the right sizeAdded to this, I am a philistine so hi-tech would be wasted on someone with my talent. I tend to be among the back bunch along for the fun of the ride and no threat at all to the serious competitors.

 

I ride for the sheer enjoyment of it (and sometime question how much joy there can be in a sore butt after being in the saddle for a few too many hours, but with some good roadwork and training, I just want to get to a sub 3 hr 94.7.

 

 

sub 3 94.7 defenitely not a back rider

 

Unfortunately it does start getting technical as the STI's are 8-10 speed etc and then you have to change the cluster block then that doesn't fit the rim - then change the rim hub etc etc etc etc .......

 

[Slave]

Yeah, all sorts of technocal stuff comes into the equation.

 

Maybe there s someone out there who has an "old" back wheel with an 8 speed cluster that has an 11 tooth smallest gear and some sti's to match.

 

This would be someone who maybe has a better frame than I do and recently upgraded their own technology.

 

See with an oldbike frame, one can still run the risk of bending the fram to accomodate a wider hub and changing to STI's cannot be that difficult that I can't do it.

 

Anything would be an upgrade on my current six speed and what I am really after is a smaller gear ratio so that I can get along flats and downhills faster.

 

If, in all of this, I break the frame, no BIG loss, then it just leaves me no option but to get another bike. (Budget at the mo' is very limited though so I am trying to prolong the agony of making the move.

 

My last 94.7 I came on at 4 hr 33 min, a whole hour longer than my first one back in about '03. I was hopelessly undertrained and not nearly fit enough, so this year, I am putting in the miles to build a good foundation, ride well into winter and have only a short mid winter break, before starting up and earlier training program to try for that magical three hour barrier.  The course was also a lot tougher than the first time I did the 94.7 so hill training is also part of what I am doing to build a good platform. (all this is just theory and I will know in just over a year whether or not it works.) 

[VincentBikes]

 

Yeah' date=' all sorts of technocal stuff comes into the equation.

 

Maybe there s someone out there who has an "old" back wheel with an 8 speed cluster that has an 11 tooth smallest gear and some sti's to match.

 

This would be someone who maybe has a better frame than I do and recently upgraded their own technology.

 

See with an oldbike frame, one can still run the risk of bending the fram to accomodate a wider hub and changing to STI's cannot be that difficult that I can't do it.

 

Anything would be an upgrade on my current six speed and what I am really after is a smaller gear ratio so that I can get along flats and downhills faster.

 

If, in all of this, I break the frame, no BIG loss, then it just leaves me no option but to get another bike. (Budget at the mo' is very limited though so I am trying to prolong the agony of making the move.

 

My last 94.7 I came on at 4 hr 33 min, a whole hour longer than my first one back in about '03. I was hopelessly undertrained and not nearly fit enough, so this year, I am putting in the miles to build a good foundation, ride well into winter and have only a short mid winter break, before starting up and earlier training program to try for that magical three hour barrier.  The course was also a lot tougher than the first time I did the 94.7 so hill training is also part of what I am doing to build a good platform. (all this is just theory and I will know in just over a year whether or not it works.) 

[/quote']

Did manage to get an eight speed cluster into the frame!!!

 

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

BEst of luck to you man - i myself am looking for an old beater to possible convert to single speed...

 

Have sourced a possible donor frame, but just need to check it out first to see if it'll work...

 

[Slave]

The full test run of 28.5 km went off well enough. The bike behaved well in corners and felt more stable than it ever has before.

 

I even managed to shave some of my time of my previous best for the course.

 

All that remains now is to find some second-hand cluster, hub and STI so that I can fit it all and get the bike faster on downhills and the flat sections and I will be sorted.

 

Can anyone tell me if it os possible to do this?

 

Where would be a good place to source parts?

 

What sort of frame mods are required to fit an 8 speed hub and cluster?

 

At this stage, this is all kind of experimental and if it all works out, helps improve my riding speed and increases my enjoyment, I will put the plans into motion to find a more decent ride.