MTB Hubs

[dirtrider]

Well I have never had problems with mine , but then again if you really want the KRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR then Hope would be the way to go . MY XT's also KRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR but not so load that I wake up the neighbours .

[Xenomorph]

http://www.mtbtrailreview.com/blog/industry-nine-vs-chris-king/thoughts/

 

[MintSauce]

 

Well I have never had problems with mine ' date=' but then again if you really want the KRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR then Hope would be the way to go . MY XT's also KRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR but not so load that I wake up the neighbours .[/quote']

 

 

I like KRRRRRR.....but I prefer the BZZZZZZZ of my Kings

 

 

Industry 9 is just ghey!

 

 

 

[sampie]

Thinking of upgrading to these HUBS

 

https://www.bikehub.co.za/forum_posts.asp?TID=35932&PN=43

[dirtrider]

UP here we call those hooters !!! and she purrrsssss not KRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[GoLefty!!]

the upgrade from Xt to Hope Pro II is a sound upgrade.

its a far noisierhub than the XT.

 

the xt is superior in everyother way though.

 

It's cheaper

Its only a little heavier

It uses proper bearings

The freehub does not nee dregular maintenance

 

I still love my Gold Pro II hubs on the Gemini.

thats cos it provides early warning to the riders in front of me on the trail.

[TheLegend]

 

I'm not all that fond of the Hope hubs after Lilo's broke into a few pieces and could not be put together again. Between the two of us we've not have any problems with American Classic Mtb Hubs AND DT Swiss Hubs.

 

 

you took them apart and could assemble them again, I presume 

[sampie]

After all your upgrades, if someone have a LX rear hub 32h spare, i'm looking for one.

Thanks

[jamis1]

Dirt-Rider...

In your opinion is the Shimano M525's "good" enough?  My current setup is M525's & WTB Speed Disc's.
IMO it's bottom of the range on weight & quality.  It was good enough to start of with...but I want to upgrade.

 

 

Currently running M525 hubs continuously have to open ,clean and grease them to keep them smooth, Bought a set of XT wheels(will only start using them on the Sabie) will see  how they hold out.

[Johan Bornman]

Lets separate fact from opinion.

 

Fact: Forged hubs are stronger than those machined from aluminium billets. Shimano is forged, Hope is machined.

 

Dubious fact: Hope hubs have O-ring seals if I remember correctly. O-rings make very poor seals on moving parts as contaminants can roll through to the other side. No hub is better sealed than an upper-end Shimano hub. LX upwrds.  They feature a contact seal and a labyrinth seal. The combination is excellent.

 

Hub quality is determined by a combination of things, starting with the bearings, then the seals, then the manufacturing method, then the design (cambered flanges increase spoke life whereas straight flanges reduce spoke life and smaller camfered holes also enhance spoke life). Tick all of these for Shimano. Can't remember for Hope.

 

Shimano's freehub bodies are freely available, cheap and easy to replace. Actually, all freehub bodies are easy to replace. The number of ratchets in a hub freehub body is a nonsense feature. Shimano has enough. Anything more is a waste. The number of pawls (or in the Chris King case, pawl equivalents) are irrelevant since ONLY ONE PAWL engages at any one time.

 

Cartridge bearings are not particularly robus in hubs but do have the advantage that bearing damange does not jeopardise the entire wheel. Cup and cone bearings are cheap and easy to service and are more robust than cartridge bearings. However, cup damage is fatal. The latter can be prevented with maintenance and common sense.

 

 

The notion of one hub building into a stiffer wheel than another is nonsense.

 

Having said all of this, remember that strong enough is strong enough and stiff enough if stiff enough.

 

If you are sensible, you'll choose durability above all else. If you want pose value, durability may not come into play.

 

 

 

 

[Johan Bornman]

Johan is a roadie ' date=' waht does he know ?[/quote']

 

Hey, watchit!!

[bustthesickness]

I'll email Hope and let them know to go back to the drawing board cos johan said so...

[niterider]

I've got American Classics in my racing wheels, but for training wheels I think XTR hubs are the only way to go. Mine are 4yrs old - NEVER been serviced, NEVER been opened up, and they roll as well as the day they were bought.

[Johan Bornman]

I'll email Hope and let them know to go back to the drawing board cos johan said so...

 

I tell you what, instead of just an idle, sarcastic threat, why not e-mail them and ask their chief engineer to join the discussion. It won't be the first time we've done that and not the first we've eaten him for breakfast either.

 

I also suggest you go do some research on this forum about the various types of hub seals and the disadvantages and advantages before you just believe whatever a vendor tells you.

 

Please cc me on the Hope e-mail, I'll be delighted to see their comment. Previously we've had some posters here who apparently went and tattletaled to Park Tool about a comment I made on one of their tools. Sadly the mail never materialised and we're still sitting with the rubbish tool from Park.

 

 

 

 

[Retrorider]

 

 

The number of ratchets in a hub freehub body is a nonsense feature. Shimano has enough. Anything more is a waste.

 

 

When riding singletrack it is nice though if your hub engages "quicker"  (Less degrees movement before it engages)

 

 

Retrorider2008-11-15 04:55:59

[bustthesickness]

 

 

The number of ratchets in a hub freehub body is a nonsense feature. Shimano has enough. Anything more is a waste.

 

 

When riding singletrack it is nice though if your hub engages "quicker"  (Less degrees movement before it engages)

 

 

 

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