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94.7 Speeds, Times & Indexes


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So, after receiving an e-mail from the 94.7 Cycle Challenge with my time, various positions as well as index I started wondering about a few things, such as;

what speed is needed for a specific start group based on max index for the group

what index/start group my target time for next year will give.

Now of course this is all based on one road race, and some (hopefully) high school maths ...

 

The yellow blocks are groups where no max index was specified, and for those I show the index which will allow you to finish 6 hours after the last group starts.

 

edit: Colour not showing, these are groups +, TA/B, W, NN to OE

 

Hopefully somebody else finds it of at least SOME interest...

 

 


Group


Group Name


Lic


Sex


St Age


End Age


 Maximum Index In Grp 


Start Time


Proj Max Time


Avg Speed


Proj Max Finish


$94.7


Racing Elite and U23 Male


Y


M


19


29


12.77


05h30


02:21:45


40.08


07:51


# 


Racing Tandems


N


B


12


99


25.93


05h35


02:46:56


34.04


08:21


! 


Hand Cycle and Recumbent


Y


M


19


29


39.62


05h35


03:24:47


27.75


08:59


VA


Racing Vets 30 - 34 Male


Y


M


30


34


29.97


05h40


02:56:34


32.18


08:36


& 


Racing Juniors Male


Y


M


17


18


13.70


05h45


02:23:17


39.66


08:08


VB


Racing Vets 35 - 39 Male


Y


M


35


39


22.41


05h50


02:39:22


35.65


08:29


VC


Racing Vets 40 - 44 Male


Y


M


40


44


23.26


05h55


02:41:08


35.26


08:36


VD


Racing Vets 45 - 49 Male


Y


M


45


49


24.39


06h00


02:43:32


34.74


08:43


VE


Racing Vets 50 - 54 Male


Y


M


50


54


29.63


06h05


02:55:43


32.34


09:00


VF


Racing Vets 55 plus Male


Y


M


55


99


29.89


06h10


02:56:22


32.22


09:06


% 


Racing Elite and U23 Female


Y


F


19


29


28.72


06h15


02:53:28


32.75


09:08


WA


Racing Vets 30 - 39 Female


Y


F


30


39


19.94


06h20


02:34:27


36.79


08:54


WB


Racing Vets 40 - 49 Female


Y


F


40


49


21.94


06h20


02:38:24


35.87


08:58


WC


Racing Vets 50 Plus Female


Y


F


50


99


39.25


06h20


03:23:32


27.92


09:43


@ 


Racing Juniors Female


Y


F


17


18


27.36


06h25


02:50:13


33.38


09:15


* 


Racing Juveniles Female


Y


F


12


16


28.62


06h25


02:53:14


32.80


09:18


+


Racing Juveniles Male


Y


M


12


16


77.27


06h25


09:04:00


10.44


15:29


A 


Open Seeded


N


M


12


99


11.44


06h35


02:19:37


40.70


08:54


B 


Open Seeded


N


M


12


99


14.10


06h39


02:23:57


39.47


09:02


C 


Open Seeded


N


M


12


99


16.33


06h42


02:27:47


38.45


09:09


D 


Open Seeded


N


B


12


99


18.49


06h45


02:31:42


37.46


09:16


E 


Open Seeded


N


B


12


99


20.63


06h48


02:35:47


36.47


09:23


F 


Open Seeded


N


B


12


99


22.51


06h51


02:39:34


35.61


09:30


G 


Open Seeded


N


B


12


99


24.06


06h54


02:42:50


34.90


09:36


H 


Open Seeded


N


B


12


99


25.40


06h57


02:45:45


34.28


09:42


I 


Open Seeded


N


B


12


99


26.70


07h00


02:48:41


33.68


09:48


J 


Open Seeded


N


B


12


99


27.99


07h03


02:51:43


33.09


09:54


K 


Open Seeded


N


B


12


99


29.26


07h06


02:54:48


32.51


10:00


L 


Open Seeded


N


B


12


99


30.47


07h09


02:57:50


31.95


10:06


M 


Open Seeded & Sub Jun group


N


B


12


99


31.53


07h12


03:00:35


31.46


10:12


N 


Open Seeded


N


B


12


99


32.57


07h15


03:03:23


30.99


10:18


P 


Open Seeded


N


B


12


99


33.65


07h18


03:06:22


30.49


10:24


Q 


Open Seeded


N


B


12


99


34.74


07h21


03:09:28


29.99


10:30


R 


Open Seeded


N


B


12


99


35.70


07h24


03:12:18


29.55


10:36


S 


Open Seeded


N


B


12


99


36.78


07h27


03:15:35


29.05


10:42


TA / B


Social Tandems


N


B


12


99


74.02


07h33


07:56:00


11.94


15:29


W 


Corporate Bonds


N


B


12


99


73.86


07h36


07:53:00


12.01


15:29


X 


Corporate Bonds


N


B


12


99


40.25


07h39


03:26:57


27.46


11:05


Y 


Open Seeded


N


B


12


99


37.92


07h42


03:19:11


28.53


11:01


Z 


Open Seeded


N


B


12


99


39.07


07h45


03:22:56


28.00


11:07


AA


Open Seeded


N


B


12


99


40.24


07h48


03:26:55


27.46


11:14


BB


Open Seeded


N


B


12


99


41.43


07h51


03:31:07


26.91


11:22


CC


Open Seeded


N


B


12


99


42.56


07h54


03:35:16


26.39


11:29


DD


Open Seeded


N


B


12


99


43.80


07h57


03:40:01


25.83


11:37


EE


Open Seeded


N


B


12


99


44.97


08h00


03:44:42


25.29


11:44


GG


Open Seeded


N


B


12


99


46.21


08h03


03:49:53


24.72


11:52


HH


Open Seeded


N


B


12


99


47.72


08h06


03:56:31


24.02


12:02


II


Open Seeded


N


B


12


99


49.16


08h09


04:03:13


23.36


12:12


JJ


Open Seededvvv


N


B


12


99


50.00


08h12


04:07:18


22.98


12:19


KK


Open Seeded


N


B


12


99


52.18


08h15


04:18:34


21.97


12:33


LL


Open Seeded


N


B


12


99


55.17


08h18


04:35:49


20.60


12:53


MM 


Open Seeded with 50+10 group


N


B


12


99


59.29


08h21


05:03:44


18.71


13:24


NN


Open


N


B


12


99


70.84


08h25


07:04:00


13.40


15:29


PP


Open


N


B


12


99


70.56


08h29


07:00:00


13.53


15:29


QQ


Open


N


B


12


99


70.28


08h33


06:56:00


13.66


15:29


RR


Open


N


B


12


99


69.99


08h37


06:52:00


13.79


15:29


SS


Open


N


B


12


99


69.69


08h41


06:48:00


13.93


15:29


TT


Open


N


B


12


99


69.39


08h45


06:44:00


14.06


15:29


UU


Open


N


B


12


99


69.09


08h49


06:40:00


14.21


15:29


VV


Open


N


B


12


99


68.78


08h53


06:36:00


14.35


15:29


WW


Open


N


B


12


99


68.46


08h57


06:32:00


14.50


15:29


XX


Open


N


B


12


99


68.13


09h01


06:28:00


14.64


15:29


YY


Open


N


B


12


99


67.80


09h05


06:24:00


14.80


15:29


ZZ


Open


N


B


12


99


67.46


09h09


06:20:00


14.95


15:29


OA


Open


N


B


12


99


67.11


09h13


06:16:00


15.11


15:29


OB


Open


N


B


12


99


66.76


09h17


06:12:00


15.27


15:29


OC


Open


N


B


12


99


66.40


09h21


06:08:00


15.44


15:29


OD


Open


N


B


12


99


66.03


09h25


06:04:00


15.61


15:29


OE


Open


N


B


12


99


65.65


09h29


06:00:00


15.78


15:29

 
Agteros2008-12-11 11:35:33
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 Hey Agteros, interesting but please post as 71seperate threads. Info overload!????!!!???

Just kidding - don't understand a word. I just starts where they tell me to.

 

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Guest Agteros

 

 Hey Agteros' date=' interesting but please post as 71seperate threads. Info overload!????!!!???

Just kidding - don't understand a word. I just starts where they tell me to.

[/quote']

 

Ok, lets take my past 94.7 and hopefully my next 94.7

I did a 3:12 from YY and received an index of 35.92 for my effort.

An index of 35.92 would have place me in group S (max index of 36.78)

 

Next year I'd like to do a 2:50.

 

A time of 2:50 should have placed me in group J for the past event. The index for group J was 27.99 (which is the index I should chase during the coming year). The average speed I should aim to maintain for a race is 33.09km/h (based on max index for group J)

 

Hopefully this will allow me to ride with a bunch of similair abilities, and not do a 94km obstacle time trial Cry

 

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Guest Agteros

 

So the A group has a faster average speed and time than the Elites?

 

Based on the indexes provided, 11.44 vs 12.77... erm YES Shocked

 

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Interesting.

 

Actual results for both "B" & "C" are slightly different than those projected.

 

"C's" winning time was 2:21 whereas "B's" was 2:24. The "C's" caught us "B's" at around the half way mark.

 

 

 

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interesting, did you take every finisher in the group or streamline it a bit...

eg omit slowest 25% in each group who are sick/crash/multiple punctures/badly hungover etc....

 

I think this will give you a better idea of the speed that you should be riding at in a particular group

 

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Guest Agteros
interesting' date=' did you take every finisher in the group or streamline it a bit...
eg omit slowest 25% in each group who are sick/crash/multiple punctures/badly hungover etc....

I think this will give you a better idea of the speed that you should be riding at in a particular group
[/quote']

 

I did the above as a guideline as to what/where to look at based on readily available information (Seeding indexes per start group). Kinda like taking you out from the dark into the dusk...

 

The above table is NOT meant to be used as a base to compare actual performances of the past event as the table is not based on actual results! Wink

 

If I can get my hands on the complete dataset (race number, start group, finish time), the actual view of the past event will of course be a lot more insightful than the guestimations of required performance based on the published maximum indexes for each group...

 

So, can you get me the complete dataset? Big%20smile I'd be rather happy to do all kinds of calcualations based on it.
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