People Against Lawless Taxis

[Slave]

I have not read and will not read the entire thread.

 

If my comments appear to be a duplicate, then that is by coincidence.

 

I am amazed that people actually get into some of these vehicles, I truly am. But then desperate times call for desperate measures.

 

In my opinion, the only way to effectively get (minibus) taxis under control is for the cops to take the vehicles off the road. I have seen a number of roadblocks in and aound our areas recently where taxis are clearly the only targets. They get pulledoff, papers checked etc. So, if there are outtanding fines, or if the vehicle is in any way not roadworthy, impound it. The owner can only reclaim it once the fines have been paid. It the taxi is pulled of because he was doing something illegal, impound the vehicle and release it only once the fine has been paid.

 

If the vehicle is in such a bad condition (and I have seen some in VERY bad shape) impound it and invite the owner to watch it be incinerated.

 

If the taxi users were not so dependent on the taxis, they could boycott them. (When I look at some of the vehiclesand the condition, I would rather walk than get into a vehicle like that.)

 

The taxi users should "klap a driver sukkend" if he jumps a traffic light, stop streetor in some way endangers their lives. (they do after all, outnumber the driver 16 to 1.)

 

This is my idea for all drivers involved in accidents causing injury. Arrest driver, put him / her in court. If guilty of negligent driving, make em work a community service where they serve x number of hours working in a trauma unit on Friday and Sat nights. Then they can get to see how a human body gets to look when it is in an accident. X will be bigger the moreserious the driving offence is. In fact, possibly this should be done to anyone convicted of speeding, driving under the influence or reckless driving.

 

Now the thing is to get the authorities to buy into this. The way they currently go about doing their work. NEVER gonna happen.

 

There are some very deep sytemic problems that need to be resolved. Can a new government impliment some kind of law and order in a clearly lawless society? IF so, who?

 

Our next vote has to be a very responsible one. I am trying to get all the disenchanted ANC supportersat the office to see that not voting is in fact  the wrong thing to do.

 

Personally I bleieve that voting for Cope is equally daft, but like that's just my 5 zim dollars worth.

[Captain Slow]

If I had my way i will take a wheel spanner and smash all taxi window.Yes some the owners of big 4x4 do drive reckless but they dont kill on a dailly bassis.Taxi drivers are killers and should be hung!!!

 

By the way, the last 3 deaths that happened recently (excluding the incident in question), did they involve Taxi's?

Captain Slow2009-02-24 06:08:48

[AndreZA]

or if the vehicle is in any way not roadworthy' date=' impound it.[/quote']

 

 

 

you know how many new and expensive cars I've seen who's brake lights are not working and the owners don't give a crap. Last winter I passed a small Merc who's only brake light was the eye level window one. I mentioned this to the drive, as I could because I was on a bicycle, and she said "oh, thanks". For the whole week I told her this and the same comment. The week after she was gone, must have chosen another route.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Slave]

If I had my way i will take a wheel spanner and smash all taxi window.Yes some the owners of big 4x4 do drive reckless but they dont kill on a dailly bassis.Taxi drivers are killers and should be hung!!!

 

It's a bit more compicated. To the best of my knowledge, the driver is merely the driver. He does not usually own the taxi. The owner employs driver and demands a certain amount of money per day. It is usually a ridiculous amount and the driver has to drive like a madman to achieve his "target". If he fails..... HKGK (or is that HKBGK (hier kom baie groot K@K.))

 

To increase profit margins, inferior spares are used and maintenence is very "few and far between."

 

After all, the owner is not at risk. It is the "cargo" and the driver so why would he worry about the lives of others.

 

So, it is not only the drivers at fault. Yes, they are the ones piloting the vehicles often kamikaze style.

 

And then of course, all the current systemicproblems of corrupt cops, traffic officials (issuing public driving permits, false licences, etc, etc.

 

There are a huge number of problems to fix.

 

On the more cynical side. Less of them to vote for the Chimpanzee that is about to become our new pres. Oops, So sorry. Did not mean to insult the intelligence of Chimps. Now the animal rights dudes are going to be after me.

 

Helmet, (check) gloves, (check) outa here.

[TNT1]

 

If I had my way i will take a wheel spanner and smash all taxi window.Yes some the owners of big 4x4 do drive reckless but they dont kill on a dailly bassis.Taxi drivers are killers and should be hung!!!

 

It's a bit more complicated.

 

How? The driver is operating the machine when it goes about killing people. Seems pretty straight forward to me.

 

[Slave]

or if the vehicle is in any way not roadworthy' date=' impound it.[/quote']

you know how many new and expensive cars I've seen who's brake lights are not working and the owners don't give a crap. Last winter I passed a small Merc who's only brake light was the eye level window one. I mentioned this to the drive, as I could because I was on a bicycle, and she said "oh, thanks". For the whole week I told her this and the same comment. The week after she was gone, must have chosen another route.

 

Ek stem saam. (I agree) There is a general attitude of lawlessness and not only from motorists. We just have to look at ourselves to see that the attitudes of many are wrong. (This is not an indictment of all cyclists, just a general comment.)

 

You see someone (cyclist) riding without a helmet. You aks where is the hat dude? And he tells you to depart sexually, in short, rythmic movemenets from the hips. That's the wrong attitude.

 

Now aks yourself, why? Why do people break the law.

 

Well, chances are pretty dam good they will not be caught. And if they are, you just give the cop a hard time, or a bribe and you're home free. And if he doesn't take the bribe, bribe the person n court to "loose the file".

 

There are just too many issues and if the cop gets his Tip (salary at the end of the month. He went to the office every day to get it. Whether earned or not is irrelevant.

 

To get law and order back on track, there has to be a fundamental shift in attitudes and some form of punishment has to be instituted. Amonetary fine is not the answer. Community service, maybe.

 

I dunno dudes. I just dunno.

 

Like I had all the answers and then some ijit changed the questions. Now I'm searching all over again.

Slave2Love2009-02-24 06:50:56

[Bionic man]

And the latest incident 2 hours ago 'Taxi burns out in Parow'. Apparently a mother and child were killed and 4 others seriously burnt and to top it off, sounds like the taxi was petrol bombed, forensics still going over the vehicle.

[markStockton]

 

Oops' date=' So sorry. Did not mean to insult the intelligence of Chimps.

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and integrity I might add.

 

[slowpoke]

And the latest incident 2 hours ago 'Taxi burns out in Parow'. Apparently a mother and child were killed and 4 others seriously burnt and to top it off' date=' sounds like the taxi was petrol bombed, forensics still going over the vehicle.[/quote']

 

RIP mother and child.

 

when will taxi related deaths stop?????

 

how many children have died in the past week due to reckless and dangerous driving where the perpetrator has walked away????

[Slave]

TNT. I agree with you.

Generally speaking the taxi drivers are a law unto themselves. (genrally speaking of course.)

 

I have to ask if this thread is just racist though. Here's my reason. It appears that the child killed is white. Where were we when a whole taxi full of black scholl children died several months ago? ( I wasn't a hub member then so I have no idea if it was taken up in quite the same way as this incident.)

 

This whole thing about lawlessness is the result that criminals now have rights previously denied them.

 

What did we do in December when so many died as a result of negligent driving over the holiday period?

 

We can whinge, bitch and whine as much as we like, nothing wil change until the people appointed to uphold the law do so and I think we all know how that will turn out. AS long as criminals are in power (and I'm not just talking about JZ here) nothing will change.

 

The rot is permeating society at an alarming rate and we see people getting away with stuff and pretty soon, we are doing it too.

 

If a law was passed for cyclists to have there ID on them all the time and they got pulled off by the cops for jumping redtrffic lights and stop streets, then we would think twice before doing it. The fact that we get away with it means we will do it again and again.

 

The law has to change and it has to be enforced. What we are seeing now is evidence of the whole system being wrong.

 

During the previous government (regime for those who like the term better) the ANC had a policy of making the country ungovernable. Seems the chickens have come home to roost.

 

 

[Joe Low]

Wow S2L - brave man; & it's a fair point to raise.

[LoppedChiver]

If an alternative mode of transport could be offered to taxi users? Perhaps educate & influence them to use scooters where possible?<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

It would give the taxi users some independence back. And the taxi industry would not be relied on so heavily.

I have seen the poor of other countries commuting around on scooters, perhaps there is a way to get the option out to majority of taxi users here?

 

[jpdub]

If an alternative mode of transport could be offered to taxi users? Perhaps educate & influence them to use scooters where possible?<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

It would give the taxi users some independence back. And the taxi industry would not be relied on so heavily.

I have seen the poor of other countries commuting around on scooters' date=' perhaps there is a way to get the option out to majority of taxi users here?

 

[/quote']

 

Great Idea, only one problem, anything that effects the taxis owners pocket in a negitave way is dealt with in a violent 3rd world  way that once again results in innocent people loosing their life for no good reason.

 

Filthy Swines the lot of them!

 

I think the taxi ass. should change the name to The Mafia!!!

 

 

[TNT1]

 

If an alternative mode of transport could be offered to taxi users? Perhaps educate & influence them to use scooters where possible?

It would give the taxi users some independence back. And the taxi industry would not be relied on so heavily.

I have seen the poor of other countries commuting around on scooters' date=' perhaps there is a way to get the option out to majority of taxi users here?

 

[/quote']

 

Great Idea, only one problem, anything that effects the taxis owners pocket in a negitave way is dealt with in a violent 3rd world  way that once again results in innocent people loosing their life for no good reason.

 

Filthy Swines the lot of them!

 

I think the taxi ass. should change the name to The Mafia ANC!!!

 

 

 

Oh, wait they already are called that...

 

[Roer]

If an alternative mode of transport could be offered to taxi users? Perhaps educate & influence them to use scooters where possible?<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />

It would give the taxi users some independence back. And the taxi industry would not be relied on so heavily.

I have seen the poor of other countries commuting around on scooters' date=' perhaps there is a way to get the option out to majority of taxi users here?

 

[/quote']

 

One problem with that. It will be stolen. I have bought my gardner a bike and not only has he been hit by a truck, a taxi and a motorist (the man has 9 lives), but his bike has been stolen. He says nothing is safe. Least of all life. A scooter will be prime BEE shopping material and I can just see the new market opportunity - scooterjacking.