KevinG Posted March 31, 2009 Posted March 31, 2009 I got this from a mate. InterestingHi thereThought I send you guys this for interest - its a comparison of international stage race costs which I did not that long ago. I tried to compare like with like based on race entry fee, food and accommodation/logistics. I did not take route organization, international race status etc. etc. into account?.. all costs are 2009 costs, except for the Epic 2010 line? The Cape Epic is still a really good deal plus good value for money .. and is very well organized (don?t know that about others and is the only one which has UCI recognition I think.<?: prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> The SA races such as Imana and Swazi are not really comparable? but added them anyway?.. Extra Costs IncludedRaceDaysCurr.Per RiderAccom.Food/Bag shuttleRateZARCost p.dayBreakfastLunchDinnerAccomodation OtherCape Epic 20098ZAR 8 400.00 1 8 400.00 1 050.00 x - x Tented Race VillageBaggage shuttleBag etc, Tshirt etc Cape Epic 20108ZAR 12 600.00 1 12 600.00 1 575.00 x x x Tented Race VillageBaggage shuttleBag etc, Tshirt etc Trans Alps8Euro 625.00 140.00 12.84 9 822.60 1 227.83 x - x basic - in hallsBaggage shuttleT-shirt, photo packTrans Germany7Euro 550.00 140.00 12.84 8 859.60 1 265.66 ? x basic - in hallsBaggage shuttle Costa Rica4USD 999.00 10.19 10 179.81 2 544.95 - - - - Baggage shuttlebike wash & mechanics?Costa Rica4USD 1 299.00 10.19 13 236.81 3 309.20 x x ? 4 to 5 star hotel (sharing) Baggage shuttlebike wash & mechanics?Trans Rockies (basic -own tents & support)8USD 1 650.00 10.19 16 813.50 2 101.69 - - - - - - Trans Rockies (epic package)8USD 1 850.00 10.19 18 851.50 2 356.44 x x x Tented Race Village Baggage shuttle Bag etc Trans Rockies 3 day Solo3USD 599.00 199.00 169.00 10.19 9 853.73 3 284.58 BC Bike Ride (Team or Solo)8CAD 2 250.00 8.06 18 135.00 2 266.88 x x x Tented Race Village Baggage shuttle Bag and lots apparently Terra Australia (www.terraaustralismtbepic.com)7AUD 799.00 350.00 210.00 6.50 8 833.50 1 261.93 x - x - Baggage shuttle at extra cost TransAndes6USD 1 450.00 6.50 9 425.00 1 570.83 x x Tented Race Village Baggage shuttleT-shirt, photo pack Australia Alps to Snowies *(No accom.) (www.alpsepic.co.au)5AUD 495.00 6.50 3 217.50 643.50 - - - - - - Alpine Epic New Zealand (no tents etc) (www.alpineeepic.co.nz)5NZ$? 895.00 5.15 4 609.25 921.85 x - x Camping rights only Baggage shuttle T-shirt and goodie bag & kit South African Stage Races Sani to Sea3ZAR 3 225.00 1.00 3 225.00 1 075.00 xxxTented Race VillageBaggage shuttleT-shirt and goodie bag & kitWines to Whales3ZAR 2 500.00 1.00 2 500.00 833.33 xxxTentsBaggage shuttle?Swazi Extreem3ZAR 2 600.00 1.00 2 600.00 866.67 xxxHotelBaggage shuttleT-shirt and goodie bag & kit & Bike WashImana4ZAR 4 000.00 1.00 4 000.00 1 000.00 xxxHotel (but cramped)Baggage shuttleT-shirt and goodie bag & kit
Thug Posted March 31, 2009 Posted March 31, 2009 Kevin, is this an Excel spreadsheet ? If so, why not do a screen print copy it into Paint and then save the relevant part as a .jpg file. It will make it much easier to read. edit: Did what I suggested but the size of the pic is 126kb which is to big for The Hub so looking for somewhere to host. Any takers ? The Thug2009-03-31 05:45:41
GoLefty!! Posted March 31, 2009 Posted March 31, 2009 NOw factor in a location factor which takes into account; interest ratesConsumer Pricing IndexDisposable income for SAFFA's And the decide if it's still cost competitive for a local. At the beginning of the Epic there was a cost for entry for locals and a cost for entry to international riders. This has fallen away and the cost to locals is now much higher.
Fleming Posted March 31, 2009 Posted March 31, 2009 Did what I suggested but the size of the pic is 126kb which is to big for The Hub so looking for somewhere to host. Any takers ? Email the pic to me and I will upload it to my photobucket account. fleming.stuart(at)gmail(.)com
Fleming Posted March 31, 2009 Posted March 31, 2009 Here we go: http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b69/stuartfleming/stageracenew.jpg
Gravity Sux Posted April 1, 2009 Posted April 1, 2009 Nice work, useful comparison. Guess the CE margins may be better than some of the other races because their costs are lower but they are selling to an international market. A 50% price rise is rough but it would probably not look that bad if we all had $ / Euros. The 100 guaranteed entries on Sunday suggests that they were over budget or needed bridging finance for next few months until other entries are taken up. Although when u look at what they collect in entry fees it seems a lot I know what my company salary bill is and how east it is to spend this if you are not careful. I would say without good sponsors etc you are not going to come out on the entry fees alone, hence the shop where they skin all the suckers who just completed this year's event. Anyway, the organizers may live comfortably from the proceeds of the race but they are not buying yachts in the Bahamas from this income.Just another thought, the entry fee is actually only a small part of the total cost of this race. If you add the expense of maintaining your bike for the 300 hrs of training you are going to do plus all the extras you buy because you believe it will magically get you to the end plus travel etc this becomes an expensive race. Unfortunate but then that is the way it is, one extremely expensive T-shirt.
Road Hog Posted April 1, 2009 Posted April 1, 2009 It also does not reflect the amount these events receive from sponsors !!
Mrs Pickled Posted April 1, 2009 Posted April 1, 2009 plus the add-ons like wrenches, photos, rubs etc.
Gravity Sux Posted April 1, 2009 Posted April 1, 2009 Just an after thought, where they really do shaft you is if you are forced to do a rider change in the last few weeks before the race. Here they look for the full rider fee to do the substitution. I think this can be justified if the rider just cops out and decides not to ride but there are plenty of cases where riders cannot ride because of medical reasons (broken arms, appendix, whatever). In this case I think it is just immoral of the organizers to charge what they do. Cannot believe that the admin really costs that much. Sani2c manage to handle last minute changes so I'm sure they should do without shafting the team (particularly if a medical certificate can be produced)
Mackem Posted April 1, 2009 Posted April 1, 2009 plus the add-ons like wrenches' date=' photos, rubs etc. [/quote'] Ask Joost - it could cost him a lot too.......
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