zeepee Posted May 11, 2009 Share A friend of mine() is looking at these two bikes (frames only, he's got the parts to whack on there) and cant make up his mind. In your opinion which is the better buy, and give reasons please? 1) Santa Cruz Superlighthttp://www.bikemagic.com/news/images/ib06_superlight_side_lo.jpg 2)Pivot Mach 4http://reviews.mtbr.com/interbike/files/2007/09/img_5578.jpg The Pivot is the more expensive of the two (by some margin) but is it really that much better?Can you compare the two, or are they in different leagues? Your input will be appreciatedzeepee2009-05-11 09:40:23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
singletrackmind Posted May 11, 2009 Share Dont think its that much better but apparently (?) its more of a race bike... im not so sure though. Only heard good thinks about both though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTC OKE Posted May 11, 2009 Share Santa Cruz +1000000009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagwil Posted May 11, 2009 Share Have a look at this site. http://www.dreambike.com/suspension.htm I would probably go for the Pivot. Based on the information on this site I would probably go for the Pivot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagwil Posted May 11, 2009 Share http://www.santacruzmtb.com/superlight/index.php?maintenance=1 http://www.pivotcycles.com/mach4_color_options.phphttp://www.pivotcycles.com/mach4_color_options.php Look at these two sites too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felt cg Posted May 11, 2009 Share Single pivot is the way to go.I have a superlight - fantastic bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodbadugly Posted May 11, 2009 Share More complex suspension systems= more maintenance. Go Superlight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeepee Posted May 12, 2009 Share Jagwil- in what category does the mach 4 fall on that site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rad006 Posted May 12, 2009 Share https://www.bikehub.co.za/forum_posts.asp?TID=50303&PID=775577#775577PLus a nice extra if he contacts me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreZA Posted May 12, 2009 Share More complex suspension systems= more maintenance. Go Superlight that is very true. On a SL you have 3 bolts and 2 bearings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwan Kemp Posted May 12, 2009 Share Go with the Pivot. DW-link is FAAAAAAAAR superior to single pivot. Far. As in light years. They fall in more or less the same cat. Both can handle their fare share of trail riding, will excel in marathons or XC. Pivot has better traction, is less dependant on pro-pedal and has less bob with same amount of sag. I've seen three broken Superlight frames in one Epic so I'm not too sure on how long it'll last. Pivot will be more exclusive and you can bet your bottom dollar you will get world-class service from Victor and his team at Two Wheels Trading if you have an issue. But I'm sure you won't. The DW-link is worth the extra money. Do it. Btw, I have owned a couple of different bikes and the DW or multi pivot bikes where never a maintenance nightmare.Plus the on trail advantages far out-weigh the extra costs of bearings. Go with DW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagwil Posted May 12, 2009 Share Jagwil- in what category does the mach 4 fall on that site? Probably a 4 bar linkage. A 4 bar linkage does NOT necessarily mean MORE maintenance. I agree with The Crow on this. Go with the Pivot. Far superior. I do not agree with Goodbadugly or Mampara.jagwil2009-05-12 01:28:04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp Posted May 12, 2009 Share Jagwil- in what category does the mach 4 fall on that site? Probably a 4 bar linkage. A 4 bar linkage does NOT necessarily mean MORE maintenance. ? I Agree with The Crow on this.? Go with the Pivot. Far superior. The Mach is definitely NOT a 4 bar linkage, it's a DW link design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rad006 Posted May 12, 2009 Share Save Money buy my anthem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp Posted May 12, 2009 Share Just based on suspension design alone I would have to say that the Pivot will have a more efficient pedaling platform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreZA Posted May 12, 2009 Share I don't know how you guys pedal but my SC hardly bobs when shock is fully open and not at all when on level 3. (shock does not have lock out). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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