Let's see those Morewoods...

[rouxtjie]

@rouxtjie

 

Awesome bike :-)

 

And a thanx to Josh at cyclist workshop for the excellent Zula bike build..... That baby went perfectly yesterday (Even after Kerry tested it)

dammit, forgot ol Josh, yes a mech thousand, he took the derailer of his own bike to accomodate me riding the next day while he orders a new derailer. Now if that isn't lbs service, what is?

[TYGA]

Is the new Morewood Sukuma going to be replacing the current Shova? The Sukuma looks awesome but it seems a bit of a pity that Morewood is moving away from the seemingly indestructable single pivot design.

 

http://www.sicklines.com/2010/09/01/2010-eurobike-2011-morewood-split-pivot-prototype/

 

http://www.sicklines.com/2010/09/01/2010-eurobike-2011-morewood-split-pivot-prototype/

 

There seems to be quite a few fans of the Shova on the Hub, would this new design tempt you into trading in for the DW design and split pivot? I've always wanted a Shova and still do, but has the design run it's course and is it now a beast of the past?

[Iwan Kemp]

Split Pivot IS a single pivot still. Do a search for Split pivot and you'll see some interesting info on it. SP is similar idea to Trek's ABP. DW-link is something completely different. I think the changes will only enhance the bike, bring it more up to date with current tech and will make it even more capable.

 

Lighter frame = +

Split Pivot to minimize brake jack and anti-squad = +

Tapered Steerer = +

142 rear hub = +

Slacker HA = +

Low BB = +

 

This bike will track and rail like a single track god, yet still be light enough to pedal anywhere. Its all good.

[Guest]

This bike will track and rail like a single track god, yet still be light enough to pedal anywhere. Its all good.

 

How much lighter will it be?

[Iwan Kemp]

Fully done

 

If it works, it works but that saddle angle is bound to give you lower back issues. Without knowing you're constantly sliding down the saddle. Staying planted in your seated position will put extra, unnecessary strain on your stabilizer and lower back muscles.

 

 

Use it, don't use it

[TYGA]

"I think the changes will only enhance the bike, bring it more up to date with current tech and will make it even more capable."

 

Thanks Crow.

 

Funny thing is I currently ride a Fuel EX with ABP and was thinking of rebuilding it onto a Shova frame...which is now being replaced with something that has the split pivot...so though the Shova will probably take a lot more of a hammering, it seems like a step backwards tech wise. I reckon a Shova would probably be wasted with a 120mm fork anyway.

[whistler]

I'm very happy with my shova (2008). Best bike for

literally anything.

won't sell/trade her any time soon or ever for that matter.

 

Will post a pic sometime.

 

Planning a large scale upgrade. Just need to manage funds a bit.

Want to use the old components for another bike.

[Bos]

so.. my Zula is almost done, I only need a polished masterpiece Seatpost to finish off the "silver and white" vibe. Im still busy with the paintjob, Its just blue vinyl at the mo, but I cant handle having the same bike as 100 others on the hub, I have to be different

 

 

and then some new X0cranks to go with that..those old XT's looks a bit tatty by now.

[TYGA]

Bos that blue and white looks awesome...totally agree with just too many of them damn white and red ones out there!

 

How does she roll compared to the SC? Enough travel to be fun?

[Bos]

Bos that blue and white looks awesome...totally agree with just too many of them damn white and red ones out there!

 

How does she roll compared to the SC? Enough travel to be fun?

 

Yes and no

 

It is a lot of fun to ride on a lot of suff but once it starts hitting the gnarly lines it gets sketch.. which I gues was always going to be the case. at least I still have a bike thats begging me to whip every bump in the road and manual between rollers etc.. I dont think you can do that with a spez epic or carbon 96.. who knows..

 

I took it to tokai for the first time on sunday..funny enough down DH1 from the big berm by the road crossing I didnt really feel a difference, I still hit all the jumps and gapped halfway down that rootstaircase after the berm but .. the Bridal trail was scary as hell, which leads me to the conclusion that the cruise was much more stable at speed and didnt get knocked off line as easy as the Woody. the morewood doesnt have the "autopilot "built in the way the santacruz did, hehe Its to heavy

the Cruise amazed me sometimes when I did plain stupid stuff like launching a little ramp then realizing theres only headsized boulders to land on..a cliff face on one side and a sheer drop down the otherside. the cruise would just ride it out.. the woody will f*ck you up

I can live with it though. cant expect everything from it.. I mean I wasnt happy with 12.5kg so I have to pay some dews, Its still plenty of fun, would have loved to lose another half KG, but is that ever going to change? haha, think not, its a desease, like anorexia.

 

 

I love the white and pollished though, mixing it with some blue.. I like to see myself as a bit of a bikeporn slut

[TYGA]

How do you reckon it would handle a bit more of a "trail" setup, maybe a shorter stem and something like a 120mm travel fox or a 90 - 130mm revelation? That said I think the warranty on a Zula only covers you for a max of 120mm fork.

[Bos]

You know what I ran the Reba 120mm on it in the beginning and it was quite clearly to much, It threw the balance out. the rear would ramp up when the front still had 2" off inches left, so what happened was that even though my stem was to high( I was hating climbing on it cause it felt like I was getting dumped off the back) I still almost went over the bars at times because the rear would firm up and then pitch your weight forward while the fork finished its stroke. So It is a lot more balanced now, you can try a short stem, should make more fun, and If you want to go high in front, It will effect the comfort while climing. I use to have no spacers under my upside down roady style stem and have the revelation on minimum travel on the Santacruse, So even with the reba on 100mm and the stem flipped I feel I could go 5-10mm lower in front. Might just cut the steerer a bit.

[TYGA]

Ya you'd probably have to slow the rebound on the back quite a bit to combat that. Nonetheless your bike looks great, I think I spend far too much time thinking about Morewoods for someone that's never even taken one for a PROPER ride! Guess it's one of those brands...

[Iwan Kemp]

Rumored to be 500-600 grams lighter. Final specs not finalized, but it'll be close to that. Going split pivot is not a step back. It's a major step forward. And yes, a 120mm fork on there will be a wast of a Shova. Riding buddy has a 170mm on his and the bike (and he) is loving it. New frame will be geo'ed around a 150mm fork.

 

Going shorter will steepen HA and lower the BB. With the BB as low as it is on the proto, I'm sure you wouldn't want to go lower anyway.

[TYGA]

No man Crow you've misunderstood me going from a EX with ABP to a current Shova would be a step back tech wise though the Shova would take a lot more beating. If I could justify throwing the cash at it that Sukuma would be lovely to have...will it survive in SA though as the all mountain / trail market doesn't seem to be that huge, specifically at that price point?

 

I completely agree though, a Shova needs to be built to take hits not XC races.

[Bos]

haha thats funny. Ya Im digging the Woody, must say I'd still love a Blur xc carbon.. If there was one for 12 on the hub right now I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Reason is I held one the other day, the frame, My word its beautifull..