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Seen a cracked Raleigh. Also saw excact same frame labelled as Flanders in an Indian shop.

 

I wonder who buys from who.

 

Is it now a Raleigh or a Flanders?

 

Do both brands source from the same frame builders.
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Guest Big H
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Hallo boela, wat was nuus van die kongres af.... enige iets earth shattering?????

Hoe weet jy die rame was dieselfde of is jou kennersoog goed genoeg om dit waar te neem????? Of het die Flanders raam gese made by Raleigh....mmmmmm????? Kyk maar na die lys hieronder en besluit self!!!!! Flanders is nie daar nie maar soos jy kan sien baie fietse word in Italie gemaak. Daar is nie baie plekke in Italie wat die rame maak nie. Veral jy weet dat jy nou net wil moeilikheid maak.

 

Previously posted by Konafan

 

Pinorello =Italy and China (depending the model)
Coicc =Italy
Eddy Merckx = Belgium
Kona =Canada (kinesis-USA), Italy and China?
Raleigh= Italy and China (depending the model)
Tommisini =Italy
Specialised = USA?
Wiler =?
Wheeler= ?
Trek = USA
Bianchi =Italy (bottom end China)
Colnago = Italy
Felt = Germany?
Cervello= ?
Lightspeed (also made some Eddy Mercks in the 1980's)
Da Rosa = Italy
Merlin=
Pegoretti = Italy.
Big H2007-04-22 12:14:47
Posted

Raleigh Carbon frames are made by Dedaccia, so its quite possible that

other companies are using the same frames. I know that Kuoto is another

company using a similar frame.

 

The Flanders looks almost identical:

 

http://users.skynet.be/flanders/images/race/IMG_3230-mono.jpg

 

Guest Big H
Posted

Ja daai krom lelike chainstay gee die game weg. Die raleigh het net 'n beter paintjob.

 

 

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Comment on:

 

Previously posted by Konafan

 

 
Eddy Merckx = Belgium Carbon frames made in Italy 

Colnago = Italy Some frames now made in the east, probably Taiwan
Posted

If you look at the karbona website you will see the exact frame know as the "muscle light" or newer "Karbona light". It is a Taiwanese company and word is that traditionally they have built frames for Raleigh, but are now selling under their own name.

I know someone who has a frame like this, it cracked at the bottom bracket and the frame is getting replaced with the newer version.
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If you look at the karbona website you will see the exact frame know as the "muscle light" or newer "Karbona light". It is a Taiwanese company and word is that traditionally they have built frames for Raleigh' date=' but are now selling under their own name.

I know someone who has a frame like this, it cracked at the bottom bracket and the frame is getting replaced with the newer version.
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You mean this:http://www.carbonfreaks.nl/winkel/images/products/race/compleet/project_muscle_light_p.jpg

 

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So you can buy the same frame, and decide if you prefer Raleigh, Flanders or Karbona stickers on it. Sounds like the Ford vs. Mazda cars on sale in SA in the '90s. Im with Oom H on this, the Raleigh colours look the best.

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So you can buy the same frame' date=' and decide if you prefer Raleigh, Flanders or Karbona stickers on it. Sounds like the Ford vs. Mazda cars on sale in SA in the '90s. Im with Oom H on this, the Raleigh colours look the best.[/quote']

 

I'm sure if you looked a few other brands you'd find alot more simmilarities.Wink You can be sure that there aren't nearly as many frame bulding companies in Tiawan as there are bicycle brands on the market, whether we're talking about Carbon, Aluminium, Mag. or Steel.   Very very few of the big brands have their frames made domesticaly(where ever that may be). Alltho' some of them do build their own  top shelf frames. You can probably count them on 1 hand.

 

So off to the bike shop and pick a paint jobClap

 

 

Posted
LOOK ROAD FRAMES HAVE GOT TO BE THE MOST PROBLEMATIC' date=' EVERY ONE WE SOLD WE GOT 3 BACK[/quote']

 

Dude, your maths sucks!! How do you get 3 frames back for every one you sold??
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Thanx lefty I wanted to say that' date=' but was being cautious of being branded being a bigot, biased, preferential, trying to force others to think like the Big H......QUOTE']

 

Hey....if the shoe fits....!

 

 

 

 

 
Guest Big H
Posted

And I was just starting to like you and now you come and destroy a frienship...... pox on you and that bike you ride denying Airbus of quality materials!!!!!!!!! and I was just quoting dumb @sses like you!!!!!!!

Posted
And I was just starting to like you and now you come and destroy a frienship...... pox on you and that bike you ride denying Airbus of quality materials!!!!!!!!! and I was just quoting dumb @sses like you!!!!!!!

 

 

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Guest Big H
Posted

Reverted to playing with your organ now..... oh no, I have my glasses on now ...... it is only a violin!!!!!!

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