Foxy Question?

[DawieO]

I also thought it was no biggie until JB opened up my fork and showed me the fantastic scoring on the stanchion.  I now have a grating noise on every compression to remind me that there shouldn't be oil peeing out of your fork.

Oh yes, and mine is a F100X, but the seals etc are the same.DawieO2009-10-06 11:41:29

[Kritzie]

Well should there be any oil residue or not, is it part of the lubrication. Now Im confused, took it for a ride this afternoon and went past the bike shop they said it looked ok. Took it afterward over some bumpy terrain and then it happened again. Reminding you guys this is a new fork!!! MMMMmm maybe I should take a photie!!!!

[dirtrider]

We always see long endless treads on cleaning you chain and DT but a lot of people don't clean their fork/shocks after every ride and this DO cause premature seal failures . A big killer of fork seals are the Stans blow-out most of us have seen . This stuff left on your fork overnight will damage your seal on your next ride . And to prove this I will give my SL Rock Shock to Johan for a free service and inspection . This shock has been doing duty for the last 6 years without one servce and many thousands of off-road km .

[DawieO]

Drop JB a PM and get a second opinion.  A lot cheaper than new stanchions.

 

https://www.bikehub.co.za/pm_new_message_form.asp?name=Johan+Bornman

DawieO2009-10-06 11:47:25

[Kritzie]

Thanks guys will do, I am very particular about cleaning my bike so i clean the stanchions after every ride.

[dirtrider]

Sorry I did not mean you don't clean your bike , was just a general comment .

[Kritzie]

LOL no problem

[Johan Bornman]

But how is that possible on new shocks??

 

A shock seal is like a wheel alignment. You can drive out of the shop and bump your wheel against a pavement and the alignment is out. Same with a shock seal, one bad bit of grit can ruin the seal.

 

Further, the assembly quality of suspension forks is not great, particularly with Rox. I've found a broken circlip inside a new Reba's air chamber. Over the weekend I had a customer with a brand new Reba who's lockout doesn't work, most likely due to too little oil in the new fork. I've also seen seal damage from careless assembly etc.

 

They often last a very long time but every now and then they don't last all that long. It's random. Maybe you should play the Lotto this weekend, you are on a winning streak for low-probability events.

 

 

[Johan Bornman]

We always see long endless treads on cleaning you chain and DT but a lot of people don't clean their fork/shocks after every ride and this DO cause premature seal failures . A big killer of fork seals are the Stans blow-out most of us have seen . This stuff left on your fork overnight will damage your seal on your next ride . And to prove this I will give my SL Rock Shock to Johan for a free service and inspection . This shock has been doing duty for the last 6 years without one servce and many thousands of off-road km .

 

Thanks, I must have forgotted that I offered to do free services. Old age is catching up on me.

 

Like DawieO says, damage is not visible and happens inside. Service that fork.

[dirtrider]

Ok I will get the shock to you at some point and then you can tell the hubbers how I abuse my equipment .

[Wyatt Earp]

Park Tool, Rox.............poor quality, American classic........what's next ?

 

I have found nothing but exemplary assembly with Rock Shox.

[GoLefty!!]

Fork seals are quite fragile actually. If the fork was on a bike and the bike was standing for a long time in the shop or in ot s box at the distributor and then delivered to you built up without the fork being elft upside down for a while to allow oil to drain toward the seals to keep them moist then it is very easy for them to fail. Dry seals create a lot of stiction during the first few movements, then they are ruined but the fork feels so plush and wonderful, you fall in love. then youget home and you see your new found love is soiling the carpet and then you're not so much in love anymore.

 

Unlike a puppy, a rolled newspaper whacked on the rear of the fork does not make it work better. You need to take your Fox the vet to get it's seals changed.

[Johan Bornman]

Park Tool' date=' Rox.............poor quality, American classic........what's next ?
I have found nothing but exemplary assembly with Rock Shox.[/quote']

 

And two months ago you lamented the poor design and/or assembly and/or quality control in Rox motion control dampers. That didn't sound like exemplary assembly to me.

 

When I criticize, I back up my statements with examples, as I've done above.

 

I have no idea what is next, but when I come across it, I'll let you know.

 

 

[Wyatt Earp]

 

And two months ago you lamented the poor design and/or assembly and/or quality control in Rox motion control dampers.

 

For reasons unknown to me I don't quite recall this ?

[GoLefty!!]

wait for it, he will shortly paste your praise of exemplary assembly.... just wait.

 

Assembly faults creep in everywhere.

 

Thats why before I take delivery of new MTB I always ask;"Has the suspension been serviced?"

 

Ans: "No it's new."

 

I respond:" well we better get cracking on that suspension service or the RXXK i just drop into your bank account will magically return to ROk in a hurry!"

 

LBS Says:"We don't normally service new shocks."

 

Me:"I'm no normal customer.."

 

LBS:" Ok but then we can't do a free service within a month."

 

Me:"thats ok, as long as nothing breaks within the first year. Gear cables I can adjust, but I want a suspension with supple seals, not 1 yr old seals that has not seen any oil."

 

LBS:"oh ok, you have a point, collect tomorrow."

 

 

Customers spend too much time deliberating over **** what colour pedals and spacers they need, and forget that the mechanical stuff needs more attention than the bling bling...

 

 

but I guess thats why SUVs sell so well....