Why SA's in MIDWINTER?

[Sunblock]

This is a quote from a buddy of mine who trained for SA's and is sick for a 2nd time and can't take part:

"really struggle to understand why they would have SA road champs in the middle of winter? They have SA MTB champs on the 16th of June and MTB is recognized as cycling's winter sport, so to have both SA's two weeks apart just doesn't make sense..."

 

[Witrot]

Yawn!!!!!!!!!

[Psycho]

As I said to you in a previous post regarding this, I think it has something to do with the European Season.....

[Sunblock]

If that's true. and it's based on the European season, surely we can have them just 3 or 4 weeks earlier.  Do you remember last year - the cold fronts hit us that weekend as well.  I also got sick, and then was even more sick afterwards.  Usually at this time we get some of the worst cold fronts of the year, and then the guys get sick.  Isn't end of April a credible date.  It's just 4 weeks earlier?

[Psycho]

Ek dink daar is ander races dan... classics wat belangrik is.... hulle het al probeer om dit vroeer te hou een jaar en die mense het ongelooflik baie gemoan, meer as jy

[Man with no name]

Sunblock, even though your post is, again, rethoric and reactive, I will try to be constructive and positive.

 

SA's, in my understanding, is in winter because the cycling calender is generally quiet then. As Psycho mentioned, the classics are in Feb, March and then again September, October, November. C'est la Vie mate, its not going to change.

 

Road and MTB is governed by two different bodies. MTB SAs are decided over a series of events, while road is decided on one event, in line with UCI road rules and regulations. Again, C'est la Vie, I doubt Pat McQuaid will open this one for debate.

 

Let me put the counterargument to you - what difference does it make? If you have good form its surely a good idea to have the two events close to each other? (Apologies for the rethoric, but it seems to be your style of argumenting)

 

Although I appreciate the fact that you question these things, surely one needs to ask the question whether its simply worth the effort to continue doing so if

 

a) its a clear waste of time and

b) its simply criticism without considering the alternative (ie there are indeed other races and tours during that time of the year, for instance the Vets Tour) OR criticism without an alternative suggestion - which on the HUB is a bit like a eunuch in a harem.

 

I look at the really strong riders in VA. Their arguments and comments on this forum is about unsolicited, anonymous comments and racing in general. Not about when the races are. They adapt to their environment, they dont moan about it. These race dates are given in advance, so instead of complaining, they plan ahead, they adjust, adapt and survive. And win. Regardless

 

How do you feel about that?

[Sunblock]

ja dan is dit baie.

wel, kom ons los dit dan so.

 

ek onthou by verlede jaar se sa's was daar iets soos 5 ladies wat deelgeneem het.  as jy 'n sport wil KILL make the championships as unpleasant (not difficult, just unpleasant) as possible, as difficult to enter, and on the coldest day of the year.  Human beings take part at the end of the day, and it takes time to toughen up a human being.

Below: SA Ladies Start...and the crowd goes mad.

[Sunblock]

Man with no brain:

If you look at the top of the post, the person who asked the question is a VET.  His Argus time was 2:41.  Not sure if you realise this, but some people who do the road thing also do (or want to do) the MTB thing. 

 

[Witrot]

This is nationals Sunblock. This is not a funride. If you want to be a national champion, you must be able to ride any time of year. And our winter is really not that bad at all. The europe guys start training when the snow is still lying around and it will be a hot day off 10 degrees at its best. If you can't handle it stay as a funrider and ride when you want to!!!

[Canaris]

Sunblock, as a triathlete why are even worried about a race for one legged beggers, like SA Cycling Championships? Your strength is in doing all three, not doing one.

 

 

 

Focus on what is important to you, and stop trying to justify yourself.

 

 

 

If you are wanting to "create debate" about how bad CSA is, or something else you seem to be bitter about, compete in the World Fun Ride championships in March and leave SA champs for those who need to cycle in the middle of winter to prove something.

 

 

 

Either do it, or leave it to those who can to do it. But please stop whinning from the sideline.

 

 

 

ps your intial attack on CSA got some support and was worth the popcorn, but now you are only proving that you are the problem. (So much for flushing the moral highground down the toilet).

[Sunblock]

I can handle it.

Can you handle this: http://3xluck.blogspot.com/2007/05/iceman-to-crack-north-pole-swim.html

[Psycho]

Sonhol nerens in daai top post se dit enigiets dat die ou ook n vet is nie, nog n ding die wegspring wat jy hier in die foto wys, se jy is ladies SA's, WATSE CAT JOU NAR....... Jy weet tog daar is meer as een CAT, en die sonskyn en die ladies ry sonder arm warmers, JIS ja dit was koud he en die weer baie onplesierig...... Vet ladies 35-39 IS NIE LADIES SA's NIE, DIS WEL NET N CAT DAAR!!!!!!!!

 

MWNN..... net so sien jy is amper op 1000 posts.... whoooHooo!!

 

[Witrot]

Here we go again..........

 

Wel sonblock. Apparently you can't handle yourself and we can with the biggest joke of it!!! So don't ask dum questions.

[Canaris]

Sunblock, now see what you have done, psycho is so angry that he is almost incoherent. It is going to take him at least a week to stop biting the postman on his training rides.

 

 

 

Thanks a lot.

[Man with no name]

Man with no brain: (so now YOU'RE the one resorting to name calling?)

If you look at the top of the post' date=' the person who asked the question is a VET.  His Argus time was 2:41.  Not sure if you realise this, but some people who do the road thing also do (or want to do) the MTB thing. 

[/quote']

As opposed to your spelling, seems your reading skills needs a bit of attention too. People doing both and having good form is EXACTLY my point. Please read my post again. If you had good form and you don't get sick, wouldn't you like the two events to be close to each other.

 

Lets make a concession for your benefit (or should that be handicap?), lets stick to one point for now - the one about the two dates being close to each other.

 

[IanJ]

Why do you guys bother replying to these posts? Just ignore them. Maybe he will go away then.