Eldron Posted December 28, 2009 Share Over the last 3 weeks I've converted 4 bikes to tubeless and thought I'd share some geeky weighing sessions with you...Conversion 1: Slime tubes and liners to Joes Tubeless Conversion Kit2 x slime tubes + 2 x liners = 1000g2 x Joes Rim Strips + 200g sealant = 312gWeight saving: 688g Conversion 2: Normal tubes and liners to tubeless (mavic crossmax tubeless rims)2 x tubes + 2 x liners = 660g2 x valves + 200g sealant = 218gWeight saving: 442g Conversion 3: normal tubes to tubless (on tubeless rim)2 x tubes = 360g2 x valves + 200g sealant = 218gWeight saving: 142g Individual weights:Slime tube: 350gNormal tube: 160-200gJoes Rim Strip (with integrated valve): 56gValve only: 9gTyre Liner: 150gSealant: 80-120g per wheel (personal choice of course - I use 100ml) Depending on your set up (slime tubes and liners versus just tubes) there are some serious weight savings to be had - how else can you save 500g for ~R600 and some elbow grease? The conversion itself is pretty easy if you have a compressor and relatively easy if you have a garage near you. The benefits of running 2 bar tyre pressure without fear of snake bites is priceless in terms of comfort and grip... My tubeless installation knowledge is newly acquired but fairly comprehensive so if you have any questions let me know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wernervdmerwe Posted December 28, 2009 Share Nice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumbleweed Posted December 28, 2009 Share nice one, eldron. would like to hear your feedback in a coupla weeks about how the rim strips hold out. there are some naysayers here, but apart from a few tricky installations, i've never had hassles with joe's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted December 29, 2009 Share nice one' date=' eldron. would like to hear your feedback in a coupla weeks about how the rim strips hold out. there are some naysayers here, but apart from a few tricky installations, i've never had hassles with joe's.[/quote'] I have been riding a 29er Conti Race King/Velocity Rim Combo all year on Joes without a problem (the strip just stretches a bit more for the 29" diameter. I've only had to bomb twice the whole race season (around 30 races) and all my training. I swear by Joes stuff. Combos that worked:Kenda Nevegal / DT Swiss 1800Maxxis Lust / Mavic Crossmas SLMaxxis Lust / Mavic Crossmax (the old non interspoke milled version)Conti Race King 29er / Velocity One combo that didn't work was a Geax tyre and DT Swiss 1800 rim - the tyre was so tight I had to use a scew driver to get the tyre off again and I had only seated one bead! Can anyone tell me if tubeless ready rims are slightly smaller than "normal" rims (the geax tyre said NO to "nornal" rim / geax tyre combo...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Townrat Posted December 29, 2009 Share I have alexrims (TD17) with slime tubes will I be able to convert to tubeless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumbleweed Posted December 29, 2009 Share I have been riding a 29er Conti Race King/Velocity Rim Combo all year on Joes without a problem (the strip just stretches a bit more for the 29" diameter. I've only had to bomb twice the whole race season (around 30 races) and all my training. I swear by Joes stuff. good to hear that. i recommend it to a lot of customers, and have very little comeback on joe's. rode a conversion through mashatu and only lost 0.1 bar after four days of thorns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumbleweed Posted December 29, 2009 Share I have alexrims (TD17) with slime tubes will I be able to convert to tubeless yup, you will. check http://www.no-flats.com/support.php?itemid=222 for a list of compatible rims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted December 29, 2009 Share I have alexrims (TD17) with slime tubes will I be able to convert to tubeless Which tyre are you looking at? Personally I haven't converted an Alex rim but am 95% sure it won't be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Townrat Posted December 29, 2009 Share Thanks I am using a mountain king 2.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted December 29, 2009 Share I have alexrims (TD17) with slime tubes will I be able to convert to tubeless yup' date=' you will. check http://www.no-flats.com/support.php?itemid=222 for a list of compatible rims.[/quote'] Exellent link - added to favourites. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overlord Posted December 29, 2009 Share What about the the tyre weights? Do tubeless tyres weigh more than non tubeless tires? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumbleweed Posted December 29, 2009 Share What about the the tyre weights? Do tubeless tyres weigh more than non tubeless tires? tireETRTOdimensioncolorweight wireweight foldablerec. inflation, psimax. inflation, psiMountain King50-55926 x 2,0black/black6706005065http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/de/en/continental/bicycle/img/void_uv.gif55-55926 x 2,2black/black6605805065http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/de/en/continental/bicycle/img/void_uv.gif60-55926 x 2,4black/black7506705065Mountain King Supersonic55-55926 x 2,2black/black-4605065http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/de/en/continental/bicycle/img/void_uv.gif60-55926 x 2,4black/black-5305065Mountain King Protection55-55926 x 2,2black/black-6205065http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/de/en/continental/bicycle/img/void_uv.gif60-55926 x 2,4black/black-7505065Mountain King UST55-55926 x 2,2black/black-7504558http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/de/en/continental/bicycle/img/void_uv.gif60-55926 x 2,4black/black-8004558Mountain King 29inch55-62228 x 2,2black/black-7005065http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/de/en/continental/bicycle/img/void_uv.gif60-62228 x 2,4black/black-7505065and another link for eldronhttp://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/de/en/continental/bicycle/themes/mtb/cross_country/MountainKing_new_en.htmlholy roller2009-12-29 00:39:43 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gummibear Posted December 29, 2009 Share Thanks for that info Eldron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted December 29, 2009 Share and another link for eldron http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/de/en/continental/bicycle/themes/mtb/cross_country/MountainKing_new_en.html Thanks but I'm a Race King junkie - got 'em front and back. Here's one for you:http://mtbtires.com/site2/tire-specs/65-700c--29q/62-29q-700c-tire-specs Thats the 29er list but they list mini wheels (I believe they're called 26" ) as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumbleweed Posted December 29, 2009 Share and another link for eldron http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/de/en/continental/bicycle/themes/mtb/cross_country/MountainKing_new_en.html Thanks but I'm a Race King junkie - got 'em front and back. oh, alright then?http://www.conti-online.com/generator/www/de/en/continental/bicycle/themes/mtb/cc_marathon/Race%20King/raceking_en.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted December 29, 2009 Share What about the the tyre weights? Do tubeless tyres weigh more than non tubeless tires? In general tubeless are heavier than non tubeless tyres - the manufacturs claim that tubeless have to be a bit tougher. Practically there are so many tyres available in a wide variety of weights that is becomes almost irrelevant. I've only ever run non tubeless tyres in tubeless systems and had no problems - I've run non tubeless Michelin Cross Country and Conti Race Kings for many months with a tubeless conversion system with no issues at all in terms of side wall failure and tears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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