Licencing and seeding 2008

[Groot Lem]

What do you think about the following scenarios?

If I stay in Jhb, A seeded rider, and come and do a PPA race in CT , do I only need a CSA licence to race and start in A? Can my new national seeding, or Gauteng seeding, let me start in A, and in a race presented by a  regional body I dont belong to.

I think yes in both instances, as PPA is an affiliate of CSA.

If so, who do I need a CSA licence AND a PPA membership?

Surely the national seeding must replace different "regional" seedings.

If a "funrider" belongs to PPA and he MUST have a CSA licence, musnt a part of the PPA money go to CSA for the licence.

I think there is a chance that we will be able to get a licence via our province, no club needed if we dont want to.

Must the person with the cheapest licence, maybe like R50, have the same seeding/starting priveliges as the person with a full licence?

CSA will talk about this soon with PPA, and I want to pass on some good advice.

Thanks (I'm not the criminal rastafarian at CSA)

[dirtrider]

I don't really trust you roadies but I would also have thought that a National seeeding system overrides any other system ! Seeding shold be according to your abilities and not according to the money you have spend !

[Canaris]

Groot Lem,

 

there should be only one licence to ride nationally ie the CSA licence (which is approved by the UCI). So all classic races should accept this licence as legal tender.

 

 

 

Local races, if they are affiliated to CSA, should also respect the national licence.

 

 

 

If local unions want to issue local licences then they should only be valid for the area where that union has jurisdiction, and the rights of a national licencee should not be prejudiced in anyway. (ie all nationally licenced riders, has higher order beings get to start FIRST).

 

 

 

I still feel that clubs should be included in the registration and handling of licences. THis reduces the administrative load on the various unions and the CSA. Furthermore it allows better policing and control of cycling as a sport and gets more people (who are real cyclists) involved in sport administration, thus reducing the POWER of one or two people in the sport (Preventing a situation where ONE person is seen as the CSA or MR CYCLING ADMINISTRATION).KonaFan2007-07-30 04:07:54

[HomerSimpson]

Groot Lem,

First off, yes a national seeding must allow you to start (for example) in the same seeded group of any local/provincial club/group/body's ride (if they are affiliated to the CSA.

Second, the cheap licence has the same privileges as the full licence IN RACES/RIDES WHERE THE CHEAP LICENCE MAY BE USED.

Third, no, you do not need to belong to the PPA and have a national licence, but entry fees for the ride may then be more expensive for non-PPA members (for example).

My 2 cents

[mdk555]

I don?t understand why everything in cycling is so complicated. CSA should be at the top, next come your provinces and then the clubs. PPA  is not a club and should stick to what they do best which is facilitating the organization of funrides/races and  give cyclists the avenue/means to gauge their improvement via a timed chip