Northern Farms - attempted murder

[pastapouch]

And you need to understand that a tiny, tiny, tiny percentage of the hungry people are violent criminals. The sad truth though is that it does not take more than that very small percentage to do the damage. This is about violent crime, not a class war!

I don't care whether they're violent or not, a criminal is a criminal, whether they're 1% or 90.

[Redbaobab]

Do you guys think 2-way radios and a bit of community policing might help?

 

By that I mean, if NF were to allow anybody with a radio to tune into a security channel and report any suspicious activities on their route so that the fellows on the quad bikes can move directly to that area and check/clear it out.

An up-side for us all would be that anybody else with a radio would be aware of the reports made and they can then avoid the area in question or wait until it's been checked out before riding into danger.

 

This might help NF Security be more proactive and show a presence when undesirables are seen on the farm.

 

What do you all think?

 

PS: A format like this might work on all the routes in JHB where safety is an issue.

Edited November 19, 2010 by Redbaobab

[kennyg]

NF is a great place, I have never had trouble there in 3 years. I normally ride alone, and sometimes its a little quiet, but lately the RSS guys are there, I see they leave around 11:30, they already walking back to the top.

 

The guys on the quads are there.

 

By lunch time most of the people are gone and the farm is too quiet to ride in, at least for me.

 

As for radios and community style policing, we need to keep an eye on each other and keep an eye out for strangers on the farm.

 

AS for the place, what if a rider came from the other side, they would have been in plain sight, or thigh deep in water,for non-swimmers, they were probably hunting Hippo. The meat value there will out weigh the value of a bike.

 

 

The last time I saw township value a bike (AN SWORKS, or GT AVALANCHE had a street value of R500, a road bike Cervelo or Ally Merida... R200). So not worth stealing compared to hunting, a side of beef would get R1500, a complete cow R6-R10k. This is the guy or 2 who will attack a single rider, they use fear as they are "k@K" scared themselves, are unlikely to be found where a number passers by will be passing at uncalculated intervals. Due to the lack of organisation, and what to do once they have the thing in their possesion, it needs to be explained. Randomn acts..

 

 

So the game meat would be worth more than the bike, if it was the bike they were after, we looking at a far more organised( hence group 3 to 7), and higher level syndicate. So arguments of hunger will not surfice there, then there needs to be transports, taking the goods away, selling them. They are also not generally murderers, more there for intimidation/humiliation, stripping people naked etc, this lot will not be interested in 1 lone rider, they will attack a group 2 to 4, at least make the effort worth while, or a single rider if the bike is on the order form....planned

 

I will happily chat with concerned people, we can go through club rides, and analyse the areas of risk and manage them.

[voete]

Hi Guys

 

Did anyone cycle NF this weekend .Did they add the extra security as said.If they did, did you feel that it made an impact on safety.Did you feel any safer?

 

Thanks