Soooo ....
The step up from the VivoActive 4 to 5 is actually significant. Many more features added than I can ever hope to use. Battery life increased, especially when using full GPS. (just dont add music, non issue for me). Sadly the screen is smaller, but software now allow large font options (jaaaa, dont always want to grab the glasses to read notifications ...).
Any Hubber using the "large font" option ? How do you find this ?
Next up the Forerunner 165 .... wag, hou vas, kyk weer .... at first glance most of the specs are similar between the VivoActive5 and the Forerunner 165 !! Cant spot differences, at least not looking at those that I use.
EDIT ... Digging deeper ...
. No altimitor on the VA5. Did get used to it on the VA4 ....
. VA5 use 2 bottons and touch screen ... FR165 uses 5 buttons and touch screen. Buttons might be handy in the rain.
. FR165 digs deeper into running options. While the VA5 has various other sports options ...
Interesting how they tweak the programming for different target markets.
EDIT - Up to this point the watches dont support Multi sport, ie Triathlon. The step up to the next set of watches goes beyond just Triathlon, adding a LOT of training metrics !! Well worth exploring if this is your cup of tea.
DC Rainmaker has a nice video of the 165 vs the 265 .... more than 100 extra functions !!
Forerunner 255 - @shaper
WOW !! this unit bats way above its price range !!!!
Sadly less and less shops stocking this .... Not sure why. IS the 265 replacing it ? Will do more homework on this.
EDIT - Garmin SA out of stock, seems last units are being sold by NavWorld. Lots of questions online if this unit is being phased out ....
Venu 3 ... Have been watching this one for some time.
Good battery time
Biggest screen size
Gen 5 heart rate monitor .... uhmmm .... only three watches use this Gen 5 sensor, with its fair share of complaints of low rested readings. The Instinct series launched two years later went back to the Gen 4 heart rate monitor (to the best of what I can find on google...) Not sure I want to gamble on this .... Certainly will do more research on this topic.
Upper end of my budget ...
Forerunner 265 is disappointing after the 255 ..... at first glance the battery life is a significant drop.
EDIT - Garmin and various sites give wildly different battery times ....
The host of extra functions may well explain the dip in battery time ...
Instinct 3
Amoled vs Solar ....
- Solar has very small screens
- Amoled has a very good screen size when looking at the 50mm model, very good battery times, couple of nice extra functions.
Fair to say that most of the current sports watches offer WAY more functions than any normal human can ever hope to use.
EDIT - update time ....
. Battery time ... tricky one ... music, all bets are off. Functionally, the more functions, the more the battery drain. To make it even more interesting, different watches have different GPS functionality, and this has a significant impact on the battery life. The good news is that if you ever want to do some ultra event it is a quick click to go "down" to GPS only to drastically extend the battery life. Latest test by DC Rainmaker suggest that the Garmin units are still incredibly accurate on the "GPS only" setting. even more so than many of the other brands.
. Smart vs Sport ... lines are blurring ... but Garmin is most deliberate in its programming to keep both markets live. Their typical sports watches now have more smart functions than I need.
. The five button layout of the Forerunner series can be handy to overcome the touch screen issues in wet conditions. For me this certainly will help in the pool.
. Maps .... Personally I prefer to keep my eyes on the trails. But DC Rainmaker makes a good point about how far Garmin is behind the opposition on this one .....
. Instinct ... I am not liking the look of the screen on the solar version. That weird cut out in the top right ... For some reason the amoled version copies that look on most of their layouts. No, a watch face is round 😛 But it has that handy flash light ....
. VivoActive 5 ... dropping the barometric altimeter ?? Elevation is so part and parcel of our activities ....
. Venu 3 vs Frontrunner 265 ... same price point ... more sports functionality and the 5 buttons makes the FR 265 a very good looking option.
O-well, with any luck this maze of thoughts might help the next Hubber navigate this search quicker.