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Java. Applogies for not reading your original comments and i do agree with them. Lets hope those that be will do what is necessary. Again my apologies.

Java001. Cycling is not for sissies that i agree with. Just as amatter of interest. How long have you been riding, and how much competitive track racing have you actually done. Also how many times have you fallen and broken bones or been caried off on a stretcher. Any one who rides at a very competitive level has to be tough otherwise they would not be racing. So when you have broken more than a collar bone or seen a friend crash next to you or in front of you and carried off with a blanket covering him completely after been pronounced dead, and you still have the balls to get back on your bike and carry on racing, then comment on who needs to toughen up. Other wise please keep your sinical comments to your self. Further more this is about doing the right thing when it comes to diciplining a young rider before a fatal accident occurs.

Now those of you out there that may have doubts about GUILTY or NOT GUILTY. Why in hell would a cyclist resign from his club halfway through the year if he was not guilty. Now tell the rest of us why he shouldnt be banned for longer than two months or even possibly life.

Well done CSA once again you have showed how weak you are in diciplining someone who is clearly out to try and win by even the fowlest of means and possibly kill a fellow cyclist in his quest to do so. Cycling is a dangerous sport and track is even more so. Yes track is part of the dicipline that we as cylists choose to do even with its dangers. But when you have a little hot head who seems determined to cause havoc at every chance he gets it makes one wonder how far he will go or be allowed to go before a fatality happens. Believe me it is no fun seeing a fellow cyclist lying on the track motionless only to be pronounced dead by the medical staff. I knew three cyclists who were experienced, and well accomplished at this dicipline that were killed on the track, in three different accidents and these accidents were just that, at three different tracks in SA, and not some idiot trying to cause havoc or win by fowl play. I have to agree, maybe the only way to teach him is to do what one of the other hubbers have suggested and that is, for the clubs not to accept him into their club, and that the clubs start a communication chain to prevent this kind of rider ever getting a linsence, until he proves that he is competent and responsible enough to have changed his attitude. CSA get off your butts and start getting pro active about dicipline before someone looses either a SON or a FATHER and GOD forbid its not someone in your family.

Hi Cerv. Yes Ontdekkers outside Kennis Caravans i believe. According to eye witnesses the truck went straight over him and he was travelling West, sun behind the truck and no heavy traffic. It was 6.35 am. Sorry, Driver didnt see him! Bruce Reynekers son also hit by a truck from behind in the yellow lane at 10 am!! One Wonders!!!!!!! And as someone said, be vigilant and carry some form of I D. Be safe out there. Our condolences to the Amos family may God give you strength during this every trying time.

I received a call yesterday asking if i knew who the cyclist was who was killed on Monday morning on Ontdekkers. That makes two in four days. In different Cities. But it is NOT GOOD NEWS. May they Rest in Peace

Feel Sorry for Barry Mocke!! Come on if the mountain is too big to climb you dont go around it. If you cant take it head on then give it to some one who will climb it!!~

This is just not good enough by the organisers, CSA and its entire committee. In the years of the Rapport Tour there was not as many cars on the road and our population has grown. But this is no excuse for the bad showing of what promised to be SA 's cycling show case. Surely the Orgainsers and CSA would have sat around the table in planning this tour. In doing so suely it was then up to the President of CSA to ensure that the National Roads Commissioner got involved along side the organisers to meet with the Minister of Roads and Transport and also all the relevant Metro council heads and traffic heads that were going to be involved to ensure that all the T's were crossed and all the i's dotted so that this kind of F up did not occure.And then he should have made sure that a full report on the position of the councils was handed to him so that if there were any hick ups they could try and resolve them! As i mentioned Rapport Tour although it was a number of years ago was longer and passed through some of our major Cities on our major roads (albeit less traffic) without a hitch only because the right procedures were followed. Its time as i have said before that CSA become accountable for these reoccuring unacceptable disasters that seem to be happening more and more. Either they step up to the plate and do their job or resign. There are ex cyclists out there who, if approached and especially after this F up may well be willing to take on the responsibility for the good of the sport and not the pomp and glory that certain members seem to have attached to their positions. Maybe its time!!!!!!!!!

The whole debarcle stinks. Its time Mr Till had the balls to stand up and say YES C S A including himself did F@#* up and either do something about putting S A cycling back on track or step aside and let somebody else do the job!!!!! God help the Tour of S A. Cars in intersections, Taxis jumping robots, ignoring officials.............

A sad day for cycling. RIP Graham. Truly an inspiration to so many others out there. Long will you be remembered old friend.

I did not go and ride but what i have heard is just not acceptable by any means. C S A needs to be accountable and step up to the plate. We pay our license and entry fees and because we are the older generation are laughed off. When it comes to the S A National events we should be accommodated as well as any of the other competitive groups. If they cannot handle the amount of entries then i suggest that they move the Ladies and 50 + and up to another date. Maybe the Masters event that takes place in Parys(just a suggestion), but it would make sence to not try and cram everything into one weekend and have the problem of tryig to close off roads in a city for almost an entire week. Yes if you held S A's a weekend apart it would mean some families would need to travel twice or just put in for a weeks leave. Then C S A would complain about the logistics for them as far as officials are concerned. The same would apply or they would need to make provision for that. Afterall we pay all the necessary fees to be able to race!!!!!!

Well good luck to all you guys down there. Thank God that the controlling body a good couple of years back new how to get things done making sure that S A Champs was well organised and run on time and every one knew what was happening. Surely its not only up to the Province who is hosting the champs to make sure all is organised. My question! C S A wtf are you doing for and to S A Cycling??

One year, WTF everybody else gets two years or worse. Doping is doping!! If the bar is set at two years then it should stay at two years. If there is evidence ban him no half measures. Brings to mind Nolan Hoffman has he not only served one year of his ban and is going to be racing again in 2011...... UCI taking at leaf out of some other cycling bodies book????

A very sad day for S A Cycling our condolences to the Swart family. May the Lord give you strength during such a tragic time. May Carla rest in peace. Barry our thoughts are also with you. This must be a very trying time for you! May you find the strength to continue doing the fantastic job you are doing for the youngsters. To those out there slagging off about who is to blame! We are all aware that the roads are unsafe no matter what mode of transport one is utilising. We are also to aware that there are far too many cyclists killed on our roads and that there is little one can do to protect us. In all walks of life we all make an error in judgment or a decision on the spur of the moment that will have consequences, some times fatal!! So lets stop blaming of the truck driver and as someone put it "You stupid cyclists". No one is perfect!!!!! We are human............

As a roadie that has been around a while and without reading all the other posts. I have to agree with you(yea as one of the posts i did read "Opening a can of worms again").But as i said i have to agree. Ride on any given day and notice how many of the roadies "pro, non pro" will return the gesture when you greet them. Unfortunately without mentioning names this was started by one or two individuals back in the 80s late 80s, who thought that they were a cut above everybody else even though you may have kicked their butt more than once, and has carried through to certain clubs and individuals in cycling. May i add i am not accusing all members of certain clubs, there are the few that have the common decentcy to return your gesture of greeting but they are in minority!! One of the ex greats in cycling of this country once said to me Common Courtesy costs you nothing no matter how great you may become in a sport, it takes a better and bigger man to be humble. You treat everyone out there as you would want them to treat you. My point is we are all riding a bicycle no matter what make or price tag is on it. Road or MTB we are all cyclists and we are no better than the next man for choosing one above the other. Show some common courtesy to your fellow cyclists road mtb after all, what does it cost to say HELLO by lifting your hand or are you just too good!!!!