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A mate just brought his marvel t1 to me and said i can get it for R500. But my tyre is running on the floor. Is it not compatible with a normal 29” mtb tyre?
So i also emailed cyclelab and they replied that if i buy the blue matic IDT i must get a training tyre with it or it will not work. Now thats a bummer. I read on other places that a 29” mtb will fit on it straight away.
Think its time i take my old school bike out and use it as a trainer on the IDT until i get the training tyre for my 29er.
Good morning everyone
So i found this special. What do you guys think of it to start off with? I know i can save a few randelas if i buy second hand but then I don’t have a warranty and back up service.
It also didn’t make sense to me. Thanks for your help.Pretty sure that you will get different wear rates on different tyres. Find out from your friend which tyre it was and which trainer. 45 mins means that something was seriously wrong.
I got 2 years on a normal gatorskin road tyre which came with the cheap 2nd hand wheel I bought, and the tyre was already seriously worn when I started using it.
I am now on a Continental Trainer Tyre for 6 months and I see absolutely no wear at all.
My IDT(IndoorTrainer for short) has a rubber lining on the drum which the tyre makes contact with, I think these might wear tyres down slower than other, but that is pure speculation.
Your usage of the trainer will also impact how quickly it wears out. Running it in highest resistance and doing sprints will surely wear it out quicker compared to doing steady state endurance sessions.
Hi everyone
Another question i have for the guys that have used the classic/dumb trainers before. How hard are these trainers on your tires if you use a mtb bike? A friend just told me that he used one for 45 minutes on his road bike and his tyre was worn out. Is that possible and the case of all classic/dumb trainers?
That is an excellent price yes. Thanks for throwing a spanner around in this engine.Not personally no, but MANY guys on here have, maybe someone can chip in here and comment on the Duties and Tax you can expect. Generally they are excellent in getting the stuff to you fairly quick.
I see you qualify for free shipping with this unit, but might me worthwhile to do DHL shipping or similar to ensure it never touches the hands of a SAPO official.
Yes i would like to hear some comments on the tax and so on. Also about the back up service of them if I don’t buy through a south African agent.
Thanks. I also saw nice ones on bike inn. Have you or someone you know ever ordered through them?Sorry, forgot to add the link:
https://www.chainreactioncycles.com/za/en/tacx-vortex-smart-trainer/rp-prod125671
Hahaha. Can you send me the link?Just to confuse you even more, here is a Smart indoor trainer from an international site: R3220... you gonna add some Taxes and handling fees, but it is a good price for a decent smart trainer.
HiThe Dongle is there to enable the iPad to listen in on the information being broadcast by devices, like the speed and power readouts from a smart trainer/speed sensor/Power meter.
I don't see what information the Garmin will be broadcasting, so I don't think it will pair with the laptop. I might be missing something here.
Thank you. I did an enquiry at garmin about the dongle and they said it will not work with an iphone above iphone 4.
HiThey are not the same unit.
This unit in the classifieds does not transmit any information to other devices, it has a computer that you mount on the handlebar which gives you all the parameters like Cadence, Power etc.
You can put in the power you want to train at and I believe it has workouts that it can run, but remember this unit was developed before 2010, things have moved along allot since then.
If you are going to spend the money I would rather go the Zwift/Sufferfest/etc route, even if it is with a cheap-and-nasty initial setup which you then upgrade as time moves along.
If you can give some sort of indication of where you are located I am sure the people on here will be more than willing to show you their Pain Caves or lend you a Dumb-Trainer and Speed-sensor to run the 7day Zwift trial on your Android phone, which will mean you don't even need to give out a cent to see what all the fuss is about.
Thank you very much. I appreciate your help. Im from Pietermaritzburg. I don’t like to lend stuff from people but all the information that was said here helped a lot.
I got a list of classic/dumb trainers that zwift does work on and i will look into getting one of those. I have a cadence/speed sensor on my bike also an ipad and a hr monitor. So to start of with ill get the second hand trainer and an ant dongle for the ipad. I also want to upgrade my wheel set so when i do that later ill use the old for a training wheel. Then just a cassette to go on the bike and the old on the training wheel.
Im excited now. Just to take my time now to get a trainer in good condition.
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Sorry if this is another dumb question.
Will this garmin ant adaptor work with the old ipad to use zwift and maybe upload data from the edge 800 to strava?
HiTrouble with that is that I think they don't have spinning bikes characterised on Zwift yet for a given speed. Plus you can change the resistance on a spinning bike and Zwift will be none the wiser that you are now working harder or softer than he thinks.
Check the Zwift websites for the list of dumb trainers that they have resistance curves already before you shop.
Like someone else mentioned, the Indoor Tyre on a cheap extra wheel is very handy, makes the changeover to the trainer fairly painless. Saw a full 29er wheel with tyre in the classifieds for R250 last week.
Sorry to bother. But are these the same units and will work? 
Thanks a lot. I’ll definitely look into it. And if i get the ant dongle on an ipad my garmin will pair with it? I have both the old ipad with the big plug and also a new one.Trouble with that is that I think they don't have spinning bikes characterised on Zwift yet for a given speed. Plus you can change the resistance on a spinning bike and Zwift will be none the wiser that you are now working harder or softer than he thinks.
Check the Zwift websites for the list of dumb trainers that they have resistance curves already before you shop.
Like someone else mentioned, the Indoor Tyre on a cheap extra wheel is very handy, makes the changeover to the trainer fairly painless. Saw a full 29er wheel with tyre in the classifieds for R250 last week.
Hiif you decide on a spinning bike Do you have a heart rate monitor with your Garmin? With that you can work zones. I'm sure you'll be able to find programs to work on the spinning bike online?
Also maybe buy one 2nd hand? People usually buy them and they end up as clothes hangers
Yes i do have a hr monitor and i can also put a speed sensor on from garmin.
This also sounds good. What’s the difference between the flow and snap?I do a lot of IDTing so here my budget setup
TACX Flow Electro Magnetic trainer like this
https://www.bikehub.co.za/classifieds/356931-tacx-flow-in-great-condition/
Gen 2 Ipad - you can get them cheap cheap
Ant+ 30 pin dongle
GARMIN speed Cad sensor from my edge 520
GARMIN HR strap from my edge 520
TACX tablet handle bar mount.
TACX Blue trainer tyre on a cheap spare road wheel
I signed up with Trainer Road = 99 USD per year.
I use Spotify free version with a collection of kick ass music through headphones to keep me in the zone
I use the virtual power with Trainer Road so no need for a power meter.
Works perfect.
One day when i'm big i'll get a smart trainer
That sounds good to get started. Thank you very much.This
Just a quick calculation of what it will cost to change your training completely:
Dumb Trainer:R500
https://www.bikehub.co.za/classifieds/358557-ravx-tx3-magnetic-trainer/
Speed sensor(Does Bluetooth and Ant+ for your Garmin and for the Laptop to run training software:R880
Once off Total: R1380.
You can add an indoor trainer tyre, but they cost close to the same as a normal tyre so just use the existing one and replace when done. Some might differ from me on this.
Montly(can be stopped at any time, 7 day trial for free):
Zwift:$15=R220(Still cheaper than gym or spinning classes per month)
(BETA verison for android is running smoothly on my Huawei P10Lite, so you don't even need a dedicated laptop or PC anymore)
If you can save up a little bit, get a power meter in the near future that you mount on your bike, like STAGES or 4iii. It will assist in outdoor training, training load management and race pacing. It replaces the speed sensor in terms of talking to the training software to relay your effort level.
Around R6000:
https://www.bikehub.co.za/classifieds/284469-4iiii-shimano-road-mtb-power-meters/
That sounds great. Ill look into it. Maybe i can just add a speed sensor to a spinning bike to start with.From what I have been reading, you dont even need a smart trainer for zwift. Can use a dumb trainer and a speed sensor. so just get a cheapy second hand trainer or rollers and an ant+ adaptor for your laptop and you good to go. its nowhere near the same effect as having say a Tacx Neo2 or a Kickr but it gets you up and running at least.
It does make sense but at this stage I can’t get the cash for that. Cycle labs got a great special atm with the kicker snap and cadence sensor for under R7k. But then a few hidden costs again. Another wheel with a slick on and a cassette. I only started mtb about 6 months ago and been out for 7 weeks with a fractured elbow. Ill rather save the extra money to buy a proper bike.once you get into something like Zwift or Rouvy, you will be hooked, I have a Spinning bike with speed and cadence sensors and since I got a Kickr, I haven't touched the spinning bike, structured workouts with proper power figures will transform your fitness. I am all for a Proper smart trainer, stretch you budget and look at second hand smart trainers.
I was a member the gym but their times schedule is the problem. I want to be able to hop on when i get time. The convenience of doing it at home is also a big advantage because i have a 8 month old baby.How about joining a gym/wattbike studio and doing the spinning classes? I go to spinning classes and I enjoy the structured aspect of it rather than pounding away in my lounge in front of the TV. We get heart rate monitors so you can monitor your efforts.
3 spinning classes a week have made a notable difference to my fitness in just 3 months
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Hi everyone
Forgive me if this topic was already posted here but I couldn’t find any.
I want to get an indoor trainer or spinning bike. I have a very low budget at the moment to spend on it. My budget is R3000.
I saw makro sells the trojan spinning bike for R2999. The reason why i think the spinning bike would suit my needs is that it doesn’t make a lot of noise and also doesn’t wear my bikes tyres. I only have a garmin edge 800 so it’s only ant+ and not Bluetooth too.
Will i be able to pick up a good second hand smart trainer that will be compatible with my edge 800 for that price or should i go ahead and buy the spinning bike?
Any help or guidance would be appreciated.
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Lol. Sorry for that. Didn’t see.I was responding to your question
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Sorry there. My daughter pressed on my screen. So technically she had her first post on here. LolGood evening
Im also a newbie to MTB and also from KZN.
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I have the same bike as you and loving it. I ride tar twice a week, gravel once a week and maybe trails in the area once every 2 weeks.
I went to the ikons 2.2 both front and back on the guys i ride with recommendations as they ride with them. They are great and work well for what im riding.
This weekend i went to karkloof twice. The first day was perfect with those tires. Saturday evening it rained. Sunday i wished a had a bit more grip on the front. But for winter coming up i think that combination for my riding is good. For the next raining season I’ll definitely put a bit more grip on the front.
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Good eveningOk sorry tar once a week and mosty trail n KZN.
Bike = Specialized rock hopper.
rider = relatively new to MTB.
LBS recommended the IKON 2.35 front, 2.2 rear.
Yes I'd concur with the LBS. They probably know the trails in the area where he rides better than BikeHub.
Secondly the OP is new to MTB so having rubber that's not as sensitive to tyre pressure, is still grippy whist relatively easy rolling would be the way to go. The rider and bike are probably riding the short to medium routes, still building fitness and confidence. The IKON is perfect for this type of rider.
Yet somehow the word "trail" links to "aggressor, "Magic Mary" etc.
You know the Green Belt in Constantia is also a trail and people who ride it are trail riders right? Triail does not equal gap jumps and fast loose berms etc etc.
Im also a newbie to MTB and also from KZN.
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