Thor Buttox

If the device is faulty, and there needs to be a large recall, then I support you. But: is the device covered by a warranty with Apple, or not? If so, then I you have the obligation to take it in and g t it repaired. If not, there is a far bigger problem with Apple warranties. I suggest either taking it in, or waiting for what happens to Andrew Steer's as he seems to have understood. But if it is, as a whole, faulty, then Discovery should be invested in sorting this out.

Drama. Romance. Horror. Hate. Anger. Depression. Acceptance. Edit: my feelings towards Hugh Grant. Not a commentary on loving an Actuary.

There was a movie once called 'Love, Actuary'. Japanese film.

This thread now needs a 'Discovery is like Hitler...' and we can all go to bed.

To have remained on 400, Mr Lazy would have missed targets and would have paid by not getting his rebate. The fit guy would be fully subsidised. That is if the algorithm works properly and doesn't give random increments.

Dammit, man, you just raised my levels of righteous indignation, and then dropped me. Now I am unhappy again.

What Myles said. Almost exclusively. And with one addendum: I am willing to take an educated guess that the vast, vast majority do not have and cannot afford heart rate monitors. The fittest of us arguing about the merits of achieving 600 pts the points is like us arguing the merits of a new medical treatment without having any impact on our lives, when comparing to those who are only trying to lose weight or who do not want to cheat. Most of us have very little clue how people who just want to look good or feel healthier use these most pedestrian tools as incentives. They really just need to fix that scale.

Sorry, Nathrix, I have been as critical as any of the way they have implemented this, but complaining of increasing points when you have met your goals is a bit silly. If you meet your goals, you get your 'reward' If you don't, you don't. Nor do those who miss their goals and have low points.

The 1 mile extra isn't the problem. It's what it does to the route profile! but only 1,160m of climbing not the 1400m they said on the site

Well done, B20. Had a nice ride in the group. After a heavy crash last week couldn't breathe deeply so was extremely grateful for the guys and one girl who formed a nice dirt-peloton until it all fell apart on the hill. After that had a painfully slow solo to the finish with a long-haired fellow about 50m ahead the whole time. That last hill was an eternity. Finished in 3.35ish so all good in the end. Pancakes went down very well!

Got my first 3000 pointer for the 50 Miler. Now I'm having a lie down. Erik K won the 160km at 29kph, and probably went for another lap. He will also get 3,000 points. In some respects I am just like a pro... But not all.

It was my first 'ultra' last year, and I was not prepared for the distance, but made it in just over 8 hours. My tips: after the first water point there is a stiff climb with a few steep kickers that is the only section not on a road. Don't go crazy there, I went too hard and started cramping at about 70km. Not a great rest of the day after that! From then til about 135km it is fairly pleasant with little climbing - I rode a 26er last year and the corrugations were tough in places, but not horrendous. At the last water point there's a right turn that starts the last climb - keep something in reserve, as I crawled up there. After that and a lovely sharp downhill there are another few short sharp climbs that hurt. But from then on it's all downhill til the end... (or that's what I thought until Meurant told us on the morning there was a last extra 2km climb and some extra that made the distance 164km)

You can do the same by lying it on a jelly pudding. True story. Try it.

Haha, now I understand those long, long, long painful rides on the weekend... Just to escape the week!

Accountant. Dodgy. Eish.

Here is a ride I did at Meerendal averaging 20kph so I was going fast for me and I barely averaged 80%. My HR is up and down like a bugger but I also recover quickly. It makes the average difficult to maintain if I do slower, steadier rides. Guess it's that we're all different thing again.

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The Apple watch moaners have only really been affected by the weird new scale implementation. And I also think a lot of the moaning would have been avoided by decent communication of the new point increments. If they said we'd all stay at 600 (or at least the couch potatoes would) they would adapt. Change is easy if it seems manageable - they just totally fluffed the implementation. (And if they are dictating training programmes to pros, as stupid as a smoothie to a pro may seem, they are again fluffing it.)

If they really wanted to do the right thing for their clients and save cash, and eliminate cheating, they would give a HR monitor to every member (not necessarily an Apple watch) , eliminate the 100pt swipe for gym access, and correct the HR scale to 60% to 70% for 30mins for 100pts. Maybe there are pitfalls in there, but it would accomplish a lot of the goals of the current system, and eliminate the problems. And be much better for the vast majority of couch potatoes. The more I talk with people who are not sports mad, the more I understand how being lazy or silly is not the only issue here.

You read 'brave' and 'adventurous' and I would agree. Others would read 'clumsy' and 'gormless'.

Now there's someone with her head screwed on straight! Opposites clearly attract!

'Baby, pls, before you do the new gap jump at Lombards, prepare me a regression analysis of the Hoogekraal crash velocity and trajectory...' Myles: 'It' s on the fridge next to the kids' statistics homework... '

As one myself, I can recognise the results of a broken personality. (Just got in before Myles.

Best part is they've rerouted the 42km through all the awesome Wolwefontein single track, unlike last year when we went up a boring road loop after the initial fun. So no need to do the long one... (if you feeling lazy after the Amarider)

ah, OK, cool, thanks, Myles. yes, I had 2 Cats and had to pay about R5, 700 after a savings residual, so then all is good.