And the amazing thing about this is that "we never ride more than one abreast" and it's ok because "bugger the motorists anyway". All this narcisim is working on my shifters. The attitudes on both sides are often wrong and that also creates a loto of aggro. Fact is that regardless of whether we are right or wrong, in a collision with a motorised vehicle, we come a very distant second in a two horse race. It's bad enough I gotta have eyes in the back of my head and my own safety, I can look after, but when other dimwits make matters worse by having a *** houding, then I tend to lose my sense of humour. And all this because now I have to be extra vigilant because the motorised peeps are getting very pissed off with our behaviour. One gripe from my bud was that often on weekends, when we are out training and having fun, he is on his way to work. By the time he gets past the cyclists, he is often late and irate. I would not want to be flying in a plane with a pissed off pilot. Not that he will crash the thing, but his frame of mind may be impacted by some dumbass on a bike and then if an emergency happens, he is not calmly in control and may be open to making a mistake. But that's all just supposition and conjecture. I mean how could a mere cyclist have such a far reaching effect on the lives of so many, so far awy? The possibilities are endless. Fact is, it's long past time to clean up our act. We whinge and whine about all the motorists who do not follow the rules of the road. What gives us the right to do the same when we so clearly are unable to do the same thing? Is this just a case of hypocritical "do as I say and not as I do?" And who died and made us the guardians of the road anyway? If we want others to respect the road rules, then we should be the first to be making sure we do it. It is after all, our own safety at stake here. Besides the fact that it's just plain rude to be a moron whether motorised or pedal powered. To reduce the number of morons on the roads, we can only change our own behaviour. Let's try to be more considerate and maybe make a difference. And maybe we should be trying to make sure that we keep our buds in line as well. Anyone know this chop? Have a quiet word with hime will ya? That attitude sucks and has potentially disaterous consequences for us. (If Ken from the Cradle is anything to go by.)