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Looks like TrainingPeaks Virtual is now available publicly for Apple TV. One user mentioned that direction buttons on an old remote doesn't work, but they were able to use their iPhone as a remote?

There is also icTrainer, which is not quite free but very cheap, that looks like it has quite a few features.

Sure, but if you run the old indieVelo installation tomorrow, it won't update to the new TrainingPeaks Virtual. They install in different folders

For the PC version (maybe Mac too) you need to go download the new version from the TrainingPeaks site. On my Android tablet it updated directly to the new version. George has mentioned that the old version won't be updated anymore, it will continue to work until something breaking changes with the API or new routes.

If you downloaded the new installer yesterday, and are having problems with it loading, go download the installer again - there is a fix for needing administrator privileges. Biggest annoyance right now is that the new version (deliberately) doesn't remember your iV login details anymore, you have to enter it every time. A minor thing.... until I end up 3s too late for a race 😋 Not an issue if you switch to using your TrainingPeaks account, if you have one.

I don't think we have enough information to be able to claim that? Definitely the increases in 2023 and 2024 are quite high, but by how much did event insurance, traffic department costs, etc. etc. etc. go up by in the same periods? And considering that for some years there were no naming sponsors?

I was also more fit in the first Detour year than the year before, and was sure I could get my first sub-3. Then the route was changed, got 4km longer and I took only a minute and a half off the previous year's time, instead of 10m that I wanted. Managed the sub-3 the next year at least. I also started in M despite the previous year's decent time, but it was actually fun and less stressful being off the front with two other riders, than avoiding crashes in A/B/C/D

Yeah, there is a substantial difference between their monthly and yearly subscription! I don't currently have any use for TP, but I think this would work out cheaper than the iV Founders Club annual amount? Anyway, at least 5 months to see how this plays out. Meantime we can test the various options that are available or will no doubt pop up.

I'll keep using it for a race once or twice a week, until it isn't available free anymore. Then will check what the pricing options are. Trainerroad is already over $20pm, so another $20 would be a hard No.

So, watching some of the Esports World Champs - is it just me, or does the speed not seem at all accurate? The ladies are riding at around 32km/h but it looks very slow. And even when they've accelerated to 40km/h+, it doesn't seem any faster.

Weirdly I am in the opposite camp - I don't care who is bot or not. I'd rather have a bunch of bots, than do a 70km TT. And on some of the recent events that were single pen with no bots, the last riders finished 10-20 minutes after the winner - not what I would consider a fun race. In the regular races (I try to only do one or two a week now, don't want to end up burnt out again like during lockdown-Zwift) you eventually recognise the names of the humans, so you can choose to only react to them.

I should test this for my wife. When Rouvy still allowed it, I would have to upload the course of whichever event she was preparing for (ex. Amashova 35km) so she could ride it over and over and...

I don't think the online races are long enough for the World Tour pros to have an advantage. Lots of the riders doing the virtual races can legitimately hold high watts up a climb... but not after already having done a hard 150km before that.

Agree on the wind, I have accepted that it was a sum of the wind, protests, fire. 2009 was fun, dodging cardboard bins blowing back and forth, seeing people with deep-sections walking back before even getting to Edinburgh Drive. Didn't have time to be upset. Just went off to try and find my dad, who had been running around trying to find someone to fix his gear cable and didn't hear the announcement.

Our group was next to start when they cancelled it. That kinda burst the bubble a bit. It was also quite windy in 2009, or hot in other years, or rainy, but it always carried on. I haven't skipped any, but since 2017 it is a lot less exciting knowing that even if I have already started it could still be cancelled. But also, I think people in general are a bit exhausted - everything is "INSANE", "NEED TO SEE THIS" clickbait headline with a dumbface thumbnail, trying to compete for attention.