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No. It was a metaphor to show how a zero tolerance approach to a problem can have the right intentions but ultimately be let down by being both misguided and the actual practicality of the scenario. Apologies if that was not blindingly obvious. I take exception to how you characterise my viewpoint here. This is not a binary scenario of alcohol/total ban, But since you seem to follow me through all different threads with an axe to grind no matter the topic I'll wait till you want to actually engage with the argument than playing the man,

even 0.02g/100ml is not going to do anything. it only targets the people who are currently "under the limit". We have history on this as the limit has been lowered twice before. Doing the same thing over again and expecting different results is insanity...Einstein had a theory on that (well he didn't but, let's not get facts arrive at the station). We can all agree that speed limits are also widely ignored in this country, and responsible for accidents and deaths*. We could lower them to 40km/h on the municipal roads and 80km/h on the freeway, not going to change anything unless it is widely adopted as a society - in reality that's never gonna happen. *(I'm sure you could even find plenty of the keep left/pass right chops here who think they have a law allows them to drive as fast as they want).

I used to commute from muizenberg to obs (and later green point) 2/3 times a week. Also used to think okes on the M5 in peak traffic were total nuts....... ...until I joined them. Got chatting guys been doing it for years, many in groups who ride together and never had issues, traffic cops tolerated it too. Massive shoulder, often going past stationary cars - you do need to keep your wits on you at intersections, but if the worst happpens you just keep going up on an ramp and down the other side. Illegal - technically YES. safer than the only other viable option (M4/main road) - you betcha! finally, after a long slog of work, getting on your bike knowing that the forecasted south easter has pulled in is a commute session of note

Ja, I like to end a ride/run with a carbohydrate recovery drink. I can't have nice things now?* This is probably the wrong thread to have a 0.05 vs 0.00 debate, as the driver of this vehicle was most likely well above both, but here we are so here goes with a hopefully useful analogy. South Africa had a huge problem with perlemoen poaching. It was blindingly obvious that the stocks were being decimated by syndicates that were multilayered from the actual divers all the way to shipping/export. Eventually in 2008 they went thermonuclear and banned all recreational collecting, with only the highly controlled commercial quotas allowed. This zero tolerance approach meant it would be easy to catch offenders and the whole cycle would be stopped. 18 years of "zero tolerance" later it has only got worse. The syndicates are still wreaking havoc, and the law abiding recreational guys who were a fraction of the total catch have been shut out. if we're only catching a fraction of the +0,15 guys now, how will they get stopped with the masses of 0-0,05 guys also being processed. how will this be different? *If you're of the view that drivers should not have had a drink in the 6 hours before they drive then we will never agree on this one.

looking for some hot tips here. Need to find some replacement 24" tyres for a frog bike. so it's kind of hybrid, essentially 24"x1.5" currently on. Where to start?! bike24 seems to be best range and import wheelchair tyres - might be a bit skinny - https://schwalbetyres.co.za/product/schwalbe-marathon-plus/ bit chunky, but maybe only viable local option. https://www.decathlon.co.za/p/311761-122811-kids-all-terrain-grip-mountain-bike-tyre-24x195.html chunky again - could get in CT - https://www.crowncycles.co.za/products/vee-tire-crown-gem-24x2-6-skinwall-bike-tire tried all the other usual suspects, other suggestions welcome for this unicorn. edit: think i might have answered my own question here - https://www.specialized.com/za/en/kicker-sport/p/218685?color=355824-218685&searchText=00122-3316

N7 is a long road. what portion are we talking about? Big diff between Dunoon and Citrusdal meh, depends on the situation and the traffic load imho. would be a pain if there are many other cyclists coming that way.

Disagree on this one. My 11yr old is rocking his 3x10 on an XS 26" just fine. FD is the easiest thing to adjust and kids should learn about cross chaining - the costs to replace this is serious low bang for buck in my mind. (happy to be slated on this one, you guys "upgrading" to 1x makes the 2nd hand market awesome!)

Drink driving has never been the social no no in this country like others, some would say this is changing. Brief history - limit was 0,15g/ 100ml and was reduced to 0,08 in the 80s (unconfirmed) In 1996, this was taken down to 0,05 inline with many other countries. Have things improved? In many forms of society (upper LSMs), uber and ride sharing has really enabled people to go bananas and get home safely, affordably and conveniently. The other positive is that younger adults don't seem to drink as much as previous generations either. Bringing it down to 0 is probably going to be a waste of time, I already here people will get prescription medicine to get around this. The real issue (IMHO) is not the people between 0 and 0.05 - it's those who are way above that and we already have the laws to get them off the roads. Having a zero tolerance approach will only lump the bad eggs into the general population and dilute them, it could even take the consequences of driving hammerfaced even lower. Like this cowboy at 10 times over the legal limit this festive season Also, not really part of this conversation but drunk rural pedestrians account for a HUGE proportion of annual road deaths. My solution here would be for Black label to have beanies with reflective strips as some promotion. exactly, I often see this on main road Fish hoek, targetting grannies who've had a G&T at the Galley. do it at 5am on payday saturday - with a blood test lab on site on you will get lots of customers who are playing russian roulette.

anyone else here tried to do this trick with a local campchair? not possible, clearly CGI

ummm, please keep us informed how the process is going, this is intriguing. Because now I google ******** and #1 return was a founder of a large property company. (If that's the case, then you're a successful guy and the seller should definitely shift the goalposts with a such a big fish on the line).

Veedub rolled off Chappies. Oke survived Comment#1

I've been trying to find this no pedestrian rule details online. Here it is from the actual site: No cyclists under the age of 12 permitted unless accompanied by an adult. No cyclists are permitted during hours of darkness. Cycling in groups is prohibited - single file only. Pedestrian movement between Lookout Point and Noordhoek Corner (km 28,6 and km 33,1) is prohibited at all times. All animals taken along the road must be leashed at all times. Weekdays (off-peak season) 07:00 – 08:00 & 16:30 – 18:00 Hours of darkness Weekends, Public Holidays & Peak Holiday Period (15 Dec - 5 Jan) 10:00 – 19:00 Hours of darkness This was interesting too https://www.chapmanspeakdrive.co.za/blog/battle-of-the-road-cyclists-vs-motorists-vs-pedestrians-on-chappies.html

i see this is on again. ha ha, anyone do the double dip last year?

Devil's advocate here. Kirstenbosch are not in the somewhat arbitrary lines of the TMNP. Newlands forest is in the somewhat arbitrary lines of the TMNP. UCT/Rhodes mem is in the somewhat arbitrary lines of the TMNP. all the arguments to chop down Deerpark apply to Newlands forest.

or please can we get an accepted standard for sarcasm text nowadays?