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But then - what are race entry fees for?

My point was more 'what do CSA do for us'in exchange for us paying them? As at the end of August, CSA had received R3,040,002.83 in Licence fees (in 2010) and had spent R766,139.94 on Salaries and R231,893.55 on Travel and Accommodation!

I'm a member of ROAG, and this is from their E-Mail news letter that I received today: CLUB ROAG – TO CONTINUE OR NOT? During 2010, the costs of maintaining Club ROAG (including the R3000 CSA affiliation fee) were financed by the “owners” of ROAG. These costs included secretarial and administration costs, salaries, telephone, travel, rent, and various other costs incurred in running a business. To date, membership of Club ROAG has been free. When Club ROAG was initiated, there was little expectation regarding the “popularity” of the club. It was never envisaged (or budgeted for) that the Club would become the preference of so many riders, and that a full time employee (together with all administrative tools – computer, desk, phone etc…) would be required. It is no longer feasible for ROAG to continue to bear the costs of Club ROAG, and we are faced with 2 alternatives. 1. Close Club ROAG. Or; 2. Charge a nominal annual membership fee of R50 for each member.

But what do we (the average cyclists/grass roots) get for our 'donations'! I, personally, can not see anywhere where CSA benefit us!

That's how I read it, but the consensus of opinion (despite the poor English) is that, to enter a race, you need: Either - Membership of CSA (R75 per annum) Or - A Day Licence of Every Race you participate in (R35 per Race) And - If you have CSA Membership, you can get a Race Licence (R350) But - You can't get a Race Licence without also having CSA Membership

As I said - Drop me a PM if you want to continue

I'm not going to go into English lessons in public with you - the English is incorrect (though your 'interpretation' is correct (having read the CSA Website)). Numbers run in sequence! and the opening (1) is EVERYONE MUST join CSA - therefore, even with a Day Licence, you MUST be a member of CSA. If you want an English lesson, please drop me a PM

2011 Licensing Process Steps 1. Everyone must join CSA as a member 2. Once you are a member, you can upgrade to a full racing license 3. Or - You can take a day license for every day you race Fees 1. CSA Membership R75.00 2. CSA Racing License R350.00 3. Day License R35.00 So, either it's very poor English or, following steps 1 to 3 in order: Everyone MUST be a CSA Member AND then you need Either a Full Race Licence or a Day Licence. If everyone else is correct, it should say: Steps 1. Everyone, except those who only wish to have a Day Licence, must join CSA as a member 2. Once you are a member, you can upgrade to a full racing license 3. Or -If you do not wish to Purchase CSA Membership, You can take a day license for every day you race. From the Cycling SA Website: ALL sanctioned events require riders to be members of CSA regardless of the distance ridden or whether the event is timed or not. This excludes fun rides and 10km “fun or kiddies” rides.

2011 Licensing Process Steps 1. EVERYONE must join CSA as a member 2. Once you are a member, you can upgrade to a full racing license 3. Or - You can take a day license for every day you race Fees 1. CSA Membership R75.00 2. CSA Racing License R350.00 3. Day License R35.00 Oxford/Collins English definition of Everyone = each one, the whole world, each person, every person, all and sundry, one and all (Everyone and everybody are interchangeable)

Depending on Rim Width, you can use from 700 23C (23mm wide Clincher)upwards. I have a set of 29er wheels with Velocity Rims and use Continental 4000 700 25C (25mm wide clincher) Road Bike Tyres on them just fine. I also commute on the bike, so have a set of Continental 'Semi Slicks'(virtually slick in the centre, but with 'knobs'on the side - these are comething like 700 32C (32mm wide Clincher) Take the wheel to your LBS, and ask them to try a road tyre on the time, if it fits, it fits, if it doesn't fit, it will not hold on the rim when inflated.

It was the biokineticist that did the training and the doctor that told me the 91% and that, from BMI, I shold loose 24kg. The testing was done at Careways in Sunninghill, Jo'burg - quite a good setup, but a 'general' medical assessment facility (company medical) rather than a 'sports medical' place. I also wondered about a % - and what 100% would be?

I did tell her that was not a weight that I'd been at since I was about 12 - i.e. more than 30 years ago! Still interested in what % Aerobic Fitness actually means - is it fixed? or related to age?

I went for a 'company sponsored' medical last week - full EGC, and strees test on the treadmill, long performance, recovery rate, etc. and they determined that I have an Aerobic Fitness Level of 91% (thay said that 76% or above is good) But what does it mean? and what does 100% mean? The only 'bad part' of the medical was that the doctor got 'THE WHEEL OF DOOM' out (BMI - height vs weight) and spun it - then told me that I should loose 24kg Does anybody have any insight int % Aerobic Fitness?

I don't know the 'solution', but putting something on the road to deliderately cause damage to property (bicycles/tyres) is a criminal activity, and must be investigated by SAPS. It's also completely stupid! and could lead to consequences far higher than a simple puncture - it could lead, directly, to a fall which could, in turn, result in someone being severly injusted - or worse - what would the charges agenst the person who placed the tacks be then? Attempted Murder? (they must surely know that the 'consequences' could be far higher than simply having a puncture to fix). Having said that - I, as a cyclist, get 'frustrated' at the way some cyclists ride!

Paint the Left one Red, and the Right one Green - then you'll know Left from Right (Port from Starbooard)

As everyone says, too many variables to be accurate but, in my case, I thought I worked 'well' on the 20k Outride on Saturday. First you need to know what your maximum heart rate is - most people don't! According to the 220 - Age rule, my max. HR should be 220 - 45 i.e. 175 bpm, but I can't get over 170 bpm. But thn I am rather unfit, and overweight! At the Outsurance Outride (only 20k, but MTB), my max heart rate was 167 bpm (i.e. close to my max.) and my average was 150 bpm - i.e. Average to Max. (for the race) 90%, average to max 88%, and average to (theoretical) max 85%. I felt I worked hard, but felt that, in places, I could have worked harder - but I think that's the sort of range to aim for - i.e. 85 to 90%.

Sorry to hear your 'mishap' - I hope everuything works out! As you said, at least he did the honerable thing in stopping! Where abouts was it? I cycle to work once a week, and turn out of Sunninghill (Maxwell Drive?) by Megawatt Park and cycle along Woodmead drive, across the M1, and to the Old Pretoria Road - the 'yellow lane' markings are very worn (due to traffic), and the yellow lane is 'just another lane' with many cars and taxi's using. Were you hit further towards Kyalami? Best wishes for the recovery and the 'repairs' - my guess that you'll feel it most tomorrow, and for the next few days.

I'm not sure where you're based, but if you want new, I've been very happy with Solomons - I bought a 'previous years model' Trek (full carbon, with full Brotrager and Ultegra gear) from them for a very reasonable price - if you don't need the very latest 'tube shapes', you can pick up great bargains with 'last years models'. Or there's Cajees - but make sure you know exactly what you want, and how much it's worth if you use them! My money is on (or rather has been spent with) Solomons - either in Pretoria or Woodmead - and I've always got good advice and (I believe) a good deal.

You guys are all too skinny! For me it's 45 Years Old 113 kg Body fat around 31%

I'm sure that, in good 'ole hub tradition, you'll get many differing opinions. You can fit 700C road tyres to a 29er wheel (you'll just have to watch 'rim width' as some 29er wheels will need wider than a 23 or 25 - say 32 or 38. Note that on MOST hard trail 26ers, you can fir 29er wheels with slicks (you just need to watch rear clearance to the swinging arm/shock mount on full sussers). I have a set of wheels for my 29er with Continental 'semi-slicks' on (32 width I think) - i.e. slick in the middle with knobbies on the outside - that I use for commuting with (so I can bounce it up onto the verge if necessary). So, if you're going to get into triathlons or road riding, buy a road bike (problem being that, if you buy a cheapo one, you'll want to upgrade) - if not, get some spare wheels for the 29er (worst case is that you can then have wheels with different tyres fitted for different conditions (mountain kings on one, and crossmarks on the other?)

I've only ever ridden clockwise (not by design, it just seems to be those are the days I manage to get there) - but, looking at the course, I do think anti-clockwise would be harder (you don't get THAT climb up the Mineshaft, but you do get the 'false flat' (as the professionals would call it)over most of the rest of the circuit!

Try Solomons - they have many, and I'm asure will ship to you.

I hear that it is - Monday to Thursday - 17:00 until dusk. I haven't been this year, but am going for the first time tonight. Cheers, Dave. I see GuyP beat me to it!

Someone 'stole' my wife's 'firt time out' Uvex sunglasses at Teaks a while back - actually she left them in the bathroom and, when she went back, they had gone, and nobody had handed them in. May not have been a cyclist (there are non-cyclists and staff), but they were sports sunglasses! If I find who stole them, I could give them the replacement light tint, yellow, and clear lenses that went with them - I have no use for them now! It seems like it happens everywhere! Back to the thread, I have 'locking knobs' on my Thule and I lock them even when there is not a bike on (if they're 'detachable arms', make sure you wind the know in - otherwise they'll just steal the whole arm and get a spare key - the key number is on the lock B) )

My Casio (not 100% accurate) says 1,425m at Linbro Park (N3 - Marlbro Drive junction) - I live in fourways, so will check at home. The Casio should be within, say 20m of accurate.