HeartCoppi

page 257 is a good one.

My problem with your argument "to grease" is as follows: "deviation: I have never had problem removing a crank (arm [just to piss you off]) Whether greased or dry they come off. There is never a threat of seizure." In essence a buffer between the surfaces, irrespective whether the thickness is mere microns, is an interruption of perfect fit. Should the buffer deteriorate or be removed, the presence of the "space" not corrected by re-tightening of the crank bolts will present movement on the taper. Do not grease. The residual stress thing?

How do you think that Freddie would ride Darth: Greased or dry?

Their website shows that they don't even know how to spell Campagnolo

This shows that sellers should mange their advertisements with constant updates. It is also important to identify who is the buyer that is in the process of transacting. The discussion reverts to the merits of a "dibs" system (equates to the take-a-number-system) A thread should be transparent and logical in sequence of dealings and sequence of interested parties. The end of the thread should have an unambiguous result. Should there be an intervention on a trader rating it can easily be resolved by reference number and thread activity. The possibility of deviant rating should motivate sellers to subscribe to this proposed method of advertisement management. I suggest that advertisement on the hub should therefore be by default exclusive during the period that the advertisement is on this forum. Once it has been announced that the thread is closed may it moved to other private classified medias. Yes thanks RodTi, the strict control is necessary and particularly in light of the affinity of hubbers to form lynch mobs.

https://www.bikehub.co.za/classifieds/5386-scott-premium-large-26-frame/ Next to the posters name is the feedback rating. Currently it is a blue square with a zero. Click on it and leave feedback. Be sure to note the small advert reference number just below the rating score.

In essence another thread about the expectations and rules when opting to use the hub community when selling goods. It is a clear pattern that sellers think that their work on the thread ends after they have posted the ad. This is not junkmail: advertisements here are threads. If you are thinking of not naming the seller, that is fine. You have a tool called "trader rating" on the hub. I encourage you to use it. Your experience with this hubber will serve and inform all hubbers more effectively than a short lived thread. Put a mark against his/her name. Make an example to all others that choose to seller here, that there are repercussions for those that sell and buy on the hub in unacceptable ways. This tool exists for exactly instances like these.

And then lastly would be : "vrek snaaks" All makes sense now !! First you get moered, then you *** yourself, then you vrek.

Ric?

Sorry for asking... How funny is "moer funny"?

I would hazard an estimate at 10,000 - 12,000?

Pity she put those 'commoner' markings on her body.

Is there a ninja in this pic?

Be patient. Step out of the bike shop for a while for some fresh air. The small of all that rubber also makes me bike crazy. Watch out for an good deal on the hub for a great bike. They appear often. Then "dibs" it.

Like the green anodized bits and the saddle a lot.

Time for awesome Carmen:

I don't see how "dibs" has no place. I don't see how it is unfair to the seller. I think the seller should be delighted if the potential buyers "took-a-number". That way the seller and the buyers know the sequence of events and expectations of all parties. The seller is aware of obligations to next buyer. The buyer is aware of obligations to the next buyer. In a scenario where three people expressed by mail or phone or thread from different adverts that they want the article... how does the seller establish who may purchase it. A clever seller couldn't be bother with accepting the responsibility of establishing sequence and I believe the most objective determination is for buyers themselves to dash for the "take-a-number-dispenser" I would not want to debate and argue about who was first or dished an injustice or recieve hate mail etc etc, if the possibility of such a simple "dibs" mechanism existed. A clever seller would revere the dibs system !! Fairness would prevail. I deal a lot with collectible cycling articles. These are goods not often seen or available. Buyers are fanatical and passionate. this community deals among itself in an orderly and simple manner with the dibs system. Speed, performance and reputation for a wonderful article is critical. Money is not the key issue. Postage and product is carefully finalised. I guess in the commodity goods this argument doesn't hold much water; but the example is worth presenting for contemplation.

lol, the great Orange water bottle thread Nominee for best thread 2010 if I am not mistaken. I have a fresh experience in mind. On Sunday I had responded to an advert on Gumtree in the morning and had consensus on the time to view. At 13h00, during a lunch outing I sent another quick note by sms to confirm the time, as previously agreed to meet at 15h30. I immediately received a reply sms confirming the appointment. I also went about readying myself by checking the address, throwing in petrol and aimed for a bankteller to draw cash. Out of the blue, half way there, I get an sms telling me that it has been sold and thanking me for my interest.c I was irritated by this and responded with scorn calling the seller a bad sport. But it was the end of the story. It was Gumtree. That's to be expected in a way. Isn't it? I think it worth investing some keyboard effort in this thread. The point of my posts here and the support for the term 'dibs' is simply that this is not Gumtree. The opportunity exists for transactions in the hub community to be different. To be fair and transparent. This should be easily regulated with the trader rating system. We wanted the system, and now that it exists it is not utilised. If I dibbed and failed to perform I should be called to act in the thread and consequentially and objectively receive a negative rating. If the seller pulled a move on me like the past experience, I would give a negative feedback for the benefit of others. Such sellers may leave and post their goods on other classified sites where this is acceptable. I am also pretty sure that the quality of advertising will improve: with more detail and prescriptions. The sale will improve with attention paid to the comments and questions expressed on the sale thread until it is sold and updated regularly. We are advertising to the whole country, if not the whole world. Be specific in who you would prefer to deal with and how you would like to transact. Be specific about exclusions. If you don't accept dibs ... say so ! If you fail to do this expect someone from far to have interest in your article. This person may be the first to respond openly on the thread. He/She cannot appear at your door with cash like the guy down the road. There is a need to deal fairly with this person who has loads of questions and requires more pictures and needs to know whether you can post and at what cost and who will pack the bike and oh hang on, I've never done this before and I need to find a courier. Do you really not expect this if you did not state otherwise in your ad? How do you handle this when the guy down the road phones again after only 30min and reminds that he can be there still tonight? and how do you react when the guy down the road says that he will pay an extra hundred rand? Do you really just say to yourself: "oh well first come first serve ONLY means first with the money!, stuff the other guy, that's a mission." OR do you think: "oh well, I did not list exclusions, so let me deal squarely with this purchaser and let him know that the info is accurate and what is possible and that there is this much reasonable time to reach closure; and at the same time inform the second possible purchaser of that status."