SeaBee Posted January 31, 2014 Share Cellar, those are just sensors to help with analysis, like the high-viz paint they also add at these tests. This one, however, was entiiirely new! Holy cow... Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/101519-formula-1/page/69/#findComment-2200720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaBee Posted January 31, 2014 Share ...and the first bit of real innovation seen thusfar. Macs are running a "butterfly suspension" on their rear wishbones. Side-on view much like a mushroom turned on it's side and works the air around nicely. Apparently already approved by FIA, but I thought rules prohibited suspension parts to be aero devices. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/101519-formula-1/page/69/#findComment-2200726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dracs Posted January 31, 2014 Share Ja I really don't understand how that was approved as legal...? Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/101519-formula-1/page/69/#findComment-2201151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cellar Posted January 31, 2014 Share Cellar, those are just sensors to help with analysis, like the high-viz paint they also add at these tests. Yeah, I am aware, they just sometimes look ridiculous, like the one in the pic Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/101519-formula-1/page/69/#findComment-2201159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cellar Posted January 31, 2014 Share ...and the first bit of real innovation seen thusfar. Macs are running a "butterfly suspension" on their rear wishbones. Side-on view much like a mushroom turned on it's side and works the air around nicely. Apparently already approved by FIA, but I thought rules prohibited suspension parts to be aero devices. Well, at least they look better from the back than the front... Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/101519-formula-1/page/69/#findComment-2201160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwan Kemp Posted January 31, 2014 Share 12:31 Quick round-up of the fourth and final day of Jerez testing so far: * Rosberg runs first race simulation of 2014* Alonso and Ferrari top timesheets at midday* Kobayashi gets his first run in the Caterham CT05* Bianchi likewise heads out in the Marussia MR03 for the first time* Red Bull and Toro Rosso complete just a handful of laps* Juncadella impresses with his first run in Force India 12:26 As we move into the afternoon, here is a quick rundown of the order (and lap count) so far on the final day: 1. Fernando Alonso (Ferrari) 1m35.334s, 64 laps2. Nico Rosberg (Mercedes) 1m36.951s, 91 laps3. Kevin Magnussen (McLaren-Mercedes) 1m38.391s, 49 laps4. Felipe Massa (Williams-Mercedes) 1m39.256s, 34 laps5. Daniel Juncadella (Force India-Mercedes) 1m41.132s, 32 laps6. Kamui Kobayashi (Caterham-Renault) 1m43.193s, 45 laps7. Daniil Kvyat (Toro Rosso-Renault) 1m44.016s, 8 laps8. Adrian Sutil (Sauber-Ferrari) 1m44.234s, 43 laps9. Daniel Ricciardo (Red Bull-Renault) 1m45.374s, 7 laps10. Jules Bianchi (Marussia-Ferrari) 1m48.192s, 5 laps Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/101519-formula-1/page/69/#findComment-2201181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwan Kemp Posted January 31, 2014 Share Some aerodynamic sensors from the past http://www.formula1-dictionary.net/Images/f-duct-mclaren-test-rig-front.jpg http://www.formula1-dictionary.net/Images/f-duct-mclaren-test-rig.jpg http://www.racecar-engineering.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/uprb9iop.jpg Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/101519-formula-1/page/69/#findComment-2201185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dracs Posted January 31, 2014 Share merc front wing detail http://img3.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Lewis-Hamilton-Mercedes-Formel-1-Jerez-Test-28-Januar-2014-fotoshowBigImage-6f08dc23-751083.jpg Johny Bravo 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/101519-formula-1/page/69/#findComment-2201199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaBee Posted January 31, 2014 Share Looked very different on other pics - that Merc wing is attached by a sliver to the pillars! Wow... I mentioned the complexity of the front wings. Will be a beach to build, esp in 43rd scale. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/101519-formula-1/page/69/#findComment-2201254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dracs Posted January 31, 2014 Share Looked very different on other pics - that Merc wing is attached by a sliver to the pillars! Wow... I mentioned the complexity of the front wings. Will be a beach to build, esp in 43rd scale. Yes, and it does have to be said that Hamilton had a front wing failure a couple of days ago... Early days though. My take so far - Merc the best front, Mclaren the best (not prettiest) rear (assuming its legal), Merc the best powerplant On the last, time will tell really, as in truth the quickest engine won't be the most powerful, but the most efficient. Since they all start with the same fuel, if you have the most efficient engine you will be able to run the most avg power over a race. (I do fear races like Monza being economy runs - that would be sad) Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/101519-formula-1/page/69/#findComment-2201277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaBee Posted February 3, 2014 Share That is the reg I hate the most about this year - limiting fuel usage. Stupid idea which was used in the 80's for I think one season(? - not 100% sure, may have been more) before they realised it's just not "cricket". Why now go back to that?! Edit: Well, that and even more restrictions on testing. I mean seriously, even limiting wind tunnel testing?! Edited February 3, 2014 by SeaBee Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/101519-formula-1/page/69/#findComment-2202365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwan Kemp Posted February 4, 2014 Share Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/101519-formula-1/page/69/#findComment-2204457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaBee Posted February 5, 2014 Share Ja, read somewhere (not sure where) that there's rumours of GP2 cars being faster than F1's?! If so, that's just crazy. Take away these crazy rules, let them race. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/101519-formula-1/page/69/#findComment-2204773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delgado Posted February 5, 2014 Share That is the reg I hate the most about this year - limiting fuel usage. Stupid idea which was used in the 80's for I think one season(? - not 100% sure, may have been more) before they realised it's just not "cricket". Why now go back to that?! Edit: Well, that and even more restrictions on testing. I mean seriously, even limiting wind tunnel testing?!Probably because the one thing that history has taught us is that we don't learn from it! Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/101519-formula-1/page/69/#findComment-2204812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwan Kemp Posted February 19, 2014 Share Second pre-season test in Bahrain is a go! FASTEST TIMES P Driver Team Time1 Hamilton Mercedes 1m37.908s2 Magnussen McLaren 1m38.295s +0.3873 Hulkenberg Force India 1m39.292s +1.3844 Sutil Sauber 1m40.443s +2.5355 Alonso Ferrari 1m40.694s +2.7866 Vettel Red Bull 1m42.309s +4.4017 Frijns Caterham 1m44.337s +6.4298 Grosjean Lotus 1m44.832s +6.924 Edited February 19, 2014 by Iwan Kemp Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/101519-formula-1/page/69/#findComment-2218907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwan Kemp Posted February 19, 2014 Share 14:41 Running is now finished. Here are the best times and number of laps completed by each driver: 1 Hulkenberg (Force India) 11m36.880s (78 laps)2 Alonso (Ferrari) 1m37.879s (64 laps)3 Hamilton (Mercedes) 1m37.908s (74 laps)4 Magnussen (McLaren) 1m38.295s (81 laps)5 Vettel (Red Bull) 1m40.224s (14 laps)6 Sutil (Sauber) 1m40.443s (82 laps)7 Frijns (Caterham) 1m42.534s (68 laps)8 Kvyat (Toro Rosso) 1m44.346s (5 laps)9 Grosjean (Lotus) 1m44.832s (8 laps)10 Massa (Williams) no time (5 laps)11 Bianchi (Marussia) no time (3 laps) http://cdn.images.autosport.com/editorial/1392820994.jpg Edited February 19, 2014 by Iwan Kemp Wez-O 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/101519-formula-1/page/69/#findComment-2219084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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