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soooo....according to the info i punched in on the garmin my max heartrate should be 181...???

the watch ask for age,height and weight

 

when done racing or training i stop the timer and a screen comes up and says my recovery heart rate must/should be or is 156???

 

what does all this mean??? i transfer data to training centre and see that HR goes up soon after starting... to about 176 and it round about stays there???

 

resting i took manually and it is 60..is this ok?

when im up and about the thing says heart rate is about 80

 

so what does one's heart rate tell you? ek gan vroeg dood gan of wat???laugh.gif of ek moet harder oefen?

 

thanks

Posted

odd with me as well, my resting is 70ish.

 

When I climb on the bike I start of at 100+......... anxiety or what?

 

 

of the feel puffs van die asma pump??? ha ha haa

 

ma nou op ernstige noot...can some-one shed some light on this HR thing?

Posted

You must just remember that resting heartrate should be taken when you wake up and didn't eat, drink or do anything... When you start walking around. Pump your wheels or get dressed, this all makes your HR go up...

 

If I do base training and I just sit with a fast cadence my HR is at about 150 and thats not hard riding. Every thing you do affects your heart rate.

 

The thing about fitness is not how high or low your HR can go. Its all about recovery. If you have a fast heart rate by nature then you'll maybe go to 170 with no effort, but the fitter you get the faster your heart rate will come down after a lekke sprint.

 

HR differs from person to person and some are low and others high, its just how fast you can recover your heart rate to your specific normal zone.

 

Hope this helps

Posted

oooo okie dokey

 

1. but what does that screen mean when it says recovery heart rate must/should be or is 156??

 

2. isnt it also a case of the fitter you get, the longer it takes you to reach max hr??

 

3. how long on avg should it take then for HR to recover to normal...?

 

thanks

Posted

just to add,

 

at what rate are you burning fat, and then at which rate are you improving fitness?

 

(read these clever things on the back of a hrm box)

Posted

1. Your recovery HR should be when there is no effort and you just sit lekke chilled and spin at comfy cadence, NO EFFORT

 

2. It depends on how you look at it. If you get fitter you'll ride faster so your HR will be the same, but if you get fitter and ride the same as normal then yes it will take longer to reach HR Max, but like I said your body can only do THAT much (which gets more as you get fitter) but fitness is all about recovery and how fast you can bring that HR down.

 

3. There is no average time to bring HR down, it all depends on how relaxed you are after a PUSH or for how long you pushed yourself. You'll start noticing after a few rides how long it takes for you to bring your HR down and as you get fiiter you'll see a great measure of time being deducted from the initial. With that said as you get fitter you definitely ride faster even if you dont try to your body is used to that amount of effort and will keep on doing that so if you get fit your effort margin will get higher and youll go faster but with the same heart rate as what you began with.

 

@Redline. Everyone thinks that the faster you go the more fat you burn but thats absolute bulsh*t. Fat burning is at a low heartrate for a loooong time. If you keep your HR high all you doing is cardio which is fitness and getting your heart strong. So if you want to lose wait, spend long hours in the saddle but keep your HR down...

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Helloise, first off - age-based HR max values are complete rubbish and very much generalisation.

E.g. my HR max according to the age based formulas is more or less where (in reality) my zone 4 starts. Somehow my heart just has the ability to reach a high max. This makes me no better or worse an athlete than the next guy, who will maybe never be able to reach his age-based formula HR max.

 

All your other zones (such as the 156 spat out to you) are deducted from the max (and the resting, if using Karvonen) values. So having an accurate max is critical. You must either be willing to cough your lungs up in a test - or ride hard and see where your real max is over time.

 

One thing I have found is - esp if you look at graphs for HR - the quickest I can see if my fitness is returning after illness or other layoff, is to watch my HR recovery rates. If you go hard and you HR remains there a while after the effort, no worries. But soon you'll see yourself going up that hill, HR going to the same region, but you see your HR dropped to say zone 3 very quickly - that's a good sign.

Posted (edited)

My 2c:

Formula for maxHR is 220 - age. Sy mine should be 220 - 34 = 186bpm. But mine is more like 170-175bpm.

 

Now, a lot of people think that the higher you maxHR is, the better athlete you are. So guys will brag about their maxHR - the higher the better.

 

I see it this way: It is like a car's engine. High revs, small engine. Low revs, big engine. Some engines run better at high revs, some don't.

 

The important thing is to keep it in the powerband and to keep it out of the redzone. What I mean is that some guys can keep there HR in the max area longer without getting sick/puking a lung, than others.

 

The fitter you get, the quiker your HR will come down. Please take note that fitness goes hand in hand with rest.

 

Getting your HR down is also something you can train, believe it or not.

 

But that is enough yada yada.

Edited by MJ loves MTB
Posted

so is there a correct formula to calculate max hr???

 

In short... No.

 

My and MJ's are perfect examples of how incorrect any formula is - he gets nowhere close to it, I go way over it. And like we both said, it's not indicative of a better athlete, either way.

 

Either go for an official test (which is expensive) or find it through riding and seeing (Find hill, ride hard, repeat...) It is also an approximation, since you protect yourself and never really push that hard that you reach your true max. But at least it's a good indication.

Posted

nee ma right dan... dankie ammal!

 

ek sal ma die graphs op die garmin training centre dop hou en so 'n beter idee kry van wat gan vir wat biggrin.gif

 

het ma net gewonder oor die hele hr storie

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