32GI

['Dale]

I really dig MDW's marketing & sales voice.

Always ready to fill the gaps.

 

Great customer care, M!

[AndreZA]

Hi Tyger

 

Our reccommended retail price to every retailer is R230 - R250 its never been lower. If a retailer is selling at R189 I can promise you he did a special on it as a new product and then decided to raise it on his own accord. I can also tell you at that price he never made any money.

 

If you take the upper end price of R250 and equate that to 40 hours of energy there is not a product on the market that can give you an hour of energy for R6.25, not even Energade or Powerade, something to consider. Knowing our ingredients are very expensive and that we can provide a product at this price to the market I think it really value for money.

 

Hope that helps

all the best

 

Mark

 

www.mydaylysupplement.co.za has it for R229 excl shipping.

 

http://www.mydailysupplement.co.za/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=18&Itemid=23

[1hill@aTime]

ok can anyone tell me if Discem eastrand mall sells this stuff according to the website not!?

[MDW]

ok can anyone tell me if Discem eastrand mall sells this stuff according to the website not!?

GOOD NEWS

Yesterday Dis-Chem gave us the thumbs up for a country wide listing of 32Gi in all Dis-Chems, if your store does not currently stock it and you want it stocked drop us a line and we will put our rep in contact with the store to have it stocked there. We are going to all stores now to get orders, it will take time.

 

:-)

 

later

MDW

[SeaBee]

GOOD NEWS

Yesterday Dis-Chem gave us the thumbs up for a country wide listing of 32Gi in all Dis-Chems, if your store does not currently stock it and you want it stocked drop us a line and we will put our rep in contact with the store to have it stocked there. We are going to all stores now to get orders, it will take time.

 

For me, that IS good news. Want to give it a try, but only one I saw stocking it remotely near me was Canal Walk. The two close to me (Paarl & Somerset Mall) just stared at me in wide-eyed confusion when I mentioned the name.

[paarlmtb]

Ok Mark

 

Thanks that makes it clearer. I will try to make sure I am taking the 50g every two hours - Incidentally why do you always use 50g per two hours instead of 25g per hour?

 

Some more questions in general on how you are fueled in an endurance event. As I mentioned earlier, I am really keen on the 32gi working for me, so I have done a bit of "research" (Internet trawling - dangerous I know)

 

What a lot of sport scientists are recommending (my understanding)is a mix of 60g of glucose and 30g of fructose per hour as that is what the athlete can digest and use per hour. 32Gi allows you to utilise your fat more efficiently as fuel but does the research show that it can provide similar amounts to the aforementioned?

 

In all the trawling I found references to research done at Freiburg but no actual report? Can you perhaps shed more light on the matter?

 

If the high Gi can provide 90g of energy per hour will it not be a better fuel than the low gi if the improved fat burning does not make up the difference between the 90 and the 25

 

Seems your answer got lost so am reposting it here

 

Good question lol. We guarantee 2 hours of energy per a serving. This is what gives the optimum taste and consistency per a 500ml-750ml bottle. 50grams is very little for 2 hours of energy.

 

I did not answer you on the chews.

In order to bake you need to add some sugar content to get the correct consistency and taste. It however is STILL low Gi. We used fructose to bring down the insulemic response, with the touch of sucrose we added. The chews really work well, remember a sachet of chews is equivalent to 3-4 gels depending on which you use, and they taste great. They do give a little bit more of a peak than the drink and some athletes like that, but it tapers nicely over a period of time.

 

and you have not answered the below

 

What a lot of sport scientists are recommending (my understanding)is a mix of 60g of glucose and 30g of fructose per hour as that is what the athlete can digest and use per hour. 32Gi allows you to utilise your fat more efficiently as fuel but does the research show that it can provide similar amounts to the aforementioned?

 

If the high Gi can provide 90g of energy per hour will it not be a better fuel than the low gi if the improved fat burning does not make up the difference between the 90 and the 25

 

 

In all the trawling I found references to research done at Freiburg but no actual report? Can you perhaps shed more light on the matter?

[Caerus]

So where in Durban can I get this stuff, I went to Dischem on Friday last week, they have never heard of it. Can we get a rep to sort it out for Dischem at Westwood shopping mall in Westville/Durban.

[Iamanafricanant]

So where in Durban can I get this stuff, I went to Dischem on Friday last week, they have never heard of it. Can we get a rep to sort it out for Dischem at Westwood shopping mall in Westville/Durban.

 

It is stocked by a small sports shop called 'Sports Zone' next door to Cyclelab in Hillcrest (Pick 'n Pay Centre). I bought my 2nd tub from them a week ago.

[Guest agteros]

I've taken the plunge and tried the stuff after taking some tasters at the Cullinan Nissan Series. Found the Lemon/lime (Green) mix to be the least sweet.

However... Taking it on a long ride, I did not find it too my liking. Thank goodness for SupaGoo!

 

Studying up on the Nutritional Info on the sachet I found that all the energy (Carbohydrates) is from Isomaltulose ... no fancy fructose mixture, nor anything else! Just an artificial sugar/sweetner.

 

FSANZ initially approves Isomaltulose (http://www.foodstand...outisom3627.cfm) but then asked some more questions about it: http://www.rabqsa.co.../emom_07_05.pdf (page 14) extract:

isomaltulose: FSANZ approves first, then asks questions

 

On 13 August 2007, Food Standards Australia New Zealand (‘FSANZ’) released a media release warning of the dangers of isomaltulose for consumption by those with disorders in fructose metabolism. Isomaltulose is a low Glycaemic Index sugar replacement product which was approved for use as a “Novel Food” following gazettal of Application A578 on 2 August 2007. The Final Assessment Report for Application A578 had been released on 23 May 2007.

 

In its Final Assessment Report, FSANZ recognised that Isomaltulose causes health problems in individuals that are intolerant to fructose or who lack the enzyme isomaltase for breaking down isomaltulose.

 

However, FSANZ’s conclusion was that it did not feel there was any need for food companies to issue mandatory warnings to consumers but, instead, that an education campaign be conducted to warn medical practitioners to pass on to such consumers, it being assumed that they might be regular visitors to a medical practitioner.

This conclusion was reached despite concerns in the Final Assessment Report that suggested that people who may be sensitive to fructose are unlikely to recognise isomaltulose as a harmful substance

.

Because isomaltulose falls into the definition of ‘sugars’ under Standard 2.8.1, it seems likely that the ingredient might be simply labelled as ‘sugars’ without further elaboration.

 

The Food Standards Australia New Zealand Act 1991 states in Section 18(1) that the primary objectives of FSANZ in developing or reviewing “food regulatory measures” are:

 

(a.) the protection of public health and safety; and

(b.) the provision of adequate information relating to food to enable consumers to make informed choices; and

(c.) the prevention of misleading or deceptive conduct.

 

FSANZ admitted in its Final Assessment Report on page 14 that ‘the effectiveness of this approach [only notifying medical practitioners] in relation to previous similar circumstances (e.g. in the approval of D-tagatose) has not been specifically evaluated’. The effectiveness of FSANZ’s safety plan which only indirectly informs vulnerable consumers through their medical practitioners and does not give adequate transparency to consumers might well deserve a query.

 

 

Yes, it might be fine for the vast majority of people out there;

Yes, it has been approved elsewhere

But ...

Surely it is prudent to take and informed, and possibly different/cautious approach, than the blindly following 'yes' path?

 

I'll be sticking to what the dietician told me: Natural sugar is better than artificial sweeteners.

[Caerus]

GOOD NEWS

Yesterday Dis-Chem gave us the thumbs up for a country wide listing of 32Gi in all Dis-Chems, if your store does not currently stock it and you want it stocked drop us a line and we will put our rep in contact with the store to have it stocked there. We are going to all stores now to get orders, it will take time.

 

:-)

 

later

MDW

 

So is there anywhere I can get the stuff in Durban yet, ann can we get the Westwood Mall Dischem too stock it?

[Caerus]

It is stocked by a small sports shop called 'Sports Zone' next door to Cyclelab in Hillcrest (Pick 'n Pay Centre). I bought my 2nd tub from them a week ago.

 

 

Thanks, Ill check it out tonight.

[y not]

Dischem Rustenburg please?

[viper469]

Dischem Boksburg please!

[Joobs]

I live in Durban and got if from Power Cycles in Umgeni Road just after the old Lion match factory for R250.

 

I have used this twice now, the second time being in the Alp D'Huez triathlon where I went over the Col D Saint Gerre (If my spelling is correct), then the Col D Oisans and then finished going up Alp D'Huez. I wont lie my legs where stuffed to say the least, but that is from climbing 15km, 14km and then 13.8km mountains and having nothing in RSA to train on.

 

But in terms of energy I was fine, I had 2 bottles of 32Gi and I was totally fine, and when I got to the top of Alp D'Huez I then ran 20km on just coke and water.

 

It works really well!!

[MDW]

I've taken the plunge and tried the stuff after taking some tasters at the Cullinan Nissan Series. Found the Lemon/lime (Green) mix to be the least sweet.

However... Taking it on a long ride, I did not find it too my liking. Thank goodness for SupaGoo!

 

Studying up on the Nutritional Info on the sachet I found that all the energy (Carbohydrates) is from Isomaltulose ... no fancy fructose mixture, nor anything else! Just an artificial sugar/sweetner.

 

FSANZ initially approves Isomaltulose (http://www.foodstand...outisom3627.cfm) but then asked some more questions about it: http://www.rabqsa.co.../emom_07_05.pdf (page 14) extract:

isomaltulose: FSANZ approves first, then asks questions

 

On 13 August 2007, Food Standards Australia New Zealand (‘FSANZ’) released a media release warning of the dangers of isomaltulose for consumption by those with disorders in fructose metabolism. Isomaltulose is a low Glycaemic Index sugar replacement product which was approved for use as a “Novel Food” following gazettal of Application A578 on 2 August 2007. The Final Assessment Report for Application A578 had been released on 23 May 2007.

 

In its Final Assessment Report, FSANZ recognised that Isomaltulose causes health problems in individuals that are intolerant to fructose or who lack the enzyme isomaltase for breaking down isomaltulose.

 

However, FSANZ’s conclusion was that it did not feel there was any need for food companies to issue mandatory warnings to consumers but, instead, that an education campaign be conducted to warn medical practitioners to pass on to such consumers, it being assumed that they might be regular visitors to a medical practitioner.

This conclusion was reached despite concerns in the Final Assessment Report that suggested that people who may be sensitive to fructose are unlikely to recognise isomaltulose as a harmful substance

.

Because isomaltulose falls into the definition of ‘sugars’ under Standard 2.8.1, it seems likely that the ingredient might be simply labelled as ‘sugars’ without further elaboration.

 

The Food Standards Australia New Zealand Act 1991 states in Section 18(1) that the primary objectives of FSANZ in developing or reviewing “food regulatory measures” are:

 

(a.) the protection of public health and safety; and

(b.) the provision of adequate information relating to food to enable consumers to make informed choices; and

(c.) the prevention of misleading or deceptive conduct.

 

FSANZ admitted in its Final Assessment Report on page 14 that ‘the effectiveness of this approach [only notifying medical practitioners] in relation to previous similar circumstances (e.g. in the approval of D-tagatose) has not been specifically evaluated’. The effectiveness of FSANZ’s safety plan which only indirectly informs vulnerable consumers through their medical practitioners and does not give adequate transparency to consumers might well deserve a query.

 

 

Yes, it might be fine for the vast majority of people out there;

Yes, it has been approved elsewhere

But ...

Surely it is prudent to take and informed, and possibly different/cautious approach, than the blindly following 'yes' path?

 

I'll be sticking to what the dietician told me: Natural sugar is better than artificial sweeteners.

 

Hi Agteros

 

I read your your post and I had to reply to it as you have the wrong perception of isomaltulose. Firstly it can be derived from honey or beet, and we do not use any generic form whatsoever. We deliver the real deal.

We also have nutritionists and dieticians reccommending 32Gi to their patients.

 

You mentioned "artificial sweetener" I need to correct this isomaltulose is definitely not considered an artificial sweetner, in actual fact the CE and FDA approve it as a natural healthy carbohydrate which is derived from a sugar source. Why? its not chemically processed its extracted and goes through a fermentation process, with no additives. Secondly there is no need to combine this with fructose as mentioned above as the combination of energy drink ingredients, including our other natural additives allow the isomaltulose to break down freely into glucose and fructose meaning you get the combination of the two during the digestive process and not required as an additional source. Fructose on its own is no endurance energy supplier as it tapers off extremely quickly and does not peak at all.

 

The document you copied and posted is from 2007, I would like to point out that since then in the US and in Europe there have been further testing and documentation done on the benefits of isomaltulose as an endurance energy product. The FDA and CE have fully supported the use of it in a wide variety of areas and our suppliers have done the research and the product testing in many various conditions and the bottom line is it works and works very well. This is waiting a change in naming as it obviously does not have the same properties as a sugar and has been tabled in Europe for a change to a carbohydrate definition.

 

To define isomaltulose I have put in the following:

 

9. What is Isomaltulose?

Isomaltulose is a novel and natural carbohydrate energy source. It is found

naturally in honey and sugar cane extract. This exclusive, healthier carbohydrate breaks down more slowly in the body when compared to sucrose

and other simple sugars. Because it is not broken down as quickly, energy from Isomaltulose is longer lasting and more sustained. Isomaltulose is also

kinder to teeth and the stomach when compared to other sugars.

 

As for the fructose intolerance, yes many people are intolerant to fructose, however anyone intolerant to fructose would be intolerant to table sugar (sucrose)as well. Most energy drinks have sucrose in them and in all honesy intolerance to a sugar based energy drink would be the same thing due to the way the sugar is broken down during the digestive process. Isomaltulose is actually easier on the digestive tracts.

 

Isomaltulose (chemical name: 6-0-α-D-glucopyranosyl-D-fructose), also known by the trade name Palatinose, is a disaccharide that is commercially manufactured enzymatically from sucrose via bacterial fermentation. It is a natural constituent of honey and sugar cane and has a very natural sweet taste. It has been used as a sugar substitute in Japan since 1985. It is particularly suitable as a non-cariogenic sucrose replacement. [1]

 

Isomaltulose is fully absorbed in the small intestine as glucose and fructose. Like sucrose, it is fully digested and provides the same caloric value of approximately 4 kcal/g.

 

It is low-glycaemic and low-insulinemic. The effect of isomaltulose is that the glucose enters the blood at a slow rate, avoiding high peaks and sudden drops in glucose levels and therefore insulin levels as well. This leads to a more balanced and prolonged energy supply in the form of glucose. [2]

 

Being low-insulinemic, isomaltulose also supports improved fat oxidation during physical activity as high insulin levels hinder the use of lipids as an energy source. As such, isomaltulose can increase the amount of fat used as energy, thus enhancing performance endurance. [3].

 

Isomaltulose is tolerated like sucrose and not suitable for people with a pre-existing intolerance to fructose and those who are unable to digest sucrose.

 

The choice is simple its either a high GI "Supagoo" as you put it, but we have shown that this low GI drink has many added benefits which a high GI drink cannot give and this is:

 

- Diabetically Suitable - Finger prick testing during events with a number of diabetic or hyperglyceamic patients have shown excellent stability in energy levels throughout.

 

- Non-Cariogenic - Does not cause any tooth decay

 

- Oxidizes more fat than any other energy drink allowing you to metabolise that and use it as a source of energy.

 

-It fuels the beain muscles consistently allowing for a longer period of mental focus during an event

 

-We have had solid results on the products and many endurance event records broken on it.

 

Now remember we also have a 32Gi chew where we have a combination of ingredients to sustain for longer but provide a slightly higher peak, and we will have some more energy products coming down the line. We are in an area where we stand our ground in the lower GI realm and we wont shift this stance. High GI has its place, but not in our area.

 

One last thing, you mentioned you tried a sachet on a training ride, dont you think you should try it more than once to give it a fair deal ;-) when I test product I test it many times, and I do it under various conditions, I also ensure my nutrition intake is optimum as not to affect any possible outcomes or misperceptions of the product I am testing. We can all have a bad day, or a bad diet for days before we try something, and we can only look around and point the finger.

 

32Gi works well and it is great for children too, and we have had many doctors prescribing it to their patients and we recently have had the honour of some Olympic athletes using the product, not just locally but abroad. We also have a well known swiss chef flavouring the drink (seriously) ;-)

 

I hope this helps anyone reading this post that has questions, in the mean time we have requested more information from our manufacturers, and are here to answer any questions you might have.

 

all the best

Mark

[milord]

Dischem Rustenburg please?

 

 

Rustenburg pls!! If you ever tried to collect something from our local postoffice you will understand!!