GLuvsMtb Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 Death bowling is so key And some good mystery spinning so batters struggling to haul the ball for boundariesAgreed. And we do not have the unorthodox slinging action of Malinga in our ranks to bowl 6 runs / over at the death. Our best bet would probably be to set targets and squeeze the batsmen upfront.
'Dale Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 Agreed. And we do not have the unorthodox slinging action of Malinga in our ranks to bowl 6 runs / over at the death. Our best bet would probably be to set targets and squeeze the batsmen upfront. Also think the pinch hitters must be deployed earlier with an anchoring type batsman on the other end
GLuvsMtb Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 Also think the pinch hitters must be deployed earlier with an anchoring type batsman on the other endLike QdK and Hash?I think that AB should bat 3. He's the best in the world and should get all the time he needs to do his magic. Miller should come in at over 14/15 (if a wicket falls there) to capitalise on the last 5 overs. Giving him 2 overs at the death to chase down against the likes of Malinga is setting him up to fail.
JGR Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 Like QdK and Hash?I think that AB should bat 3. He's the best in the world and should get all the time he needs to do his magic. Miller should come in at over 14/15 (if a wicket falls there) to capitalise on the last 5 overs. Giving him 2 overs at the death to chase down against the likes of Malinga is setting him up to fail.Miller is a good bat and not just a finisher - would like him to maybe even come in with 10 over to go - maybe 2/3 down.
GLuvsMtb Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 Miller is a good bat and not just a finisher - would like him to maybe even come in with 10 over to go - maybe 2/3 down.No problem, but then we need Albie to fire at the end. Does this mean that the likes of Behardien / Duminy only bat when we are really in trouble with say 40/4?
'Dale Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 Like QdK and Hash?I think that AB should bat 3. He's the best in the world and should get all the time he needs to do his magic. Miller should come in at over 14/15 (if a wicket falls there) to capitalise on the last 5 overs. Giving him 2 overs at the death to chase down against the likes of Malinga is setting him up to fail. AB at 3 definitely! With good death bowling, runs should be made earlier on.
JGR Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 No problem, but then we need Albie to fire at the end. Does this mean that the likes of Behardien / Duminy only bat when we are really in trouble with say 40/4?I think SA could be more flexible with their approach and the status of the game. The Aus 7 over game was an example of our inability to sometimes mix it up. If we were say 90/2 after 10 or 11 Miller could push us over 200 if he bats out. If he hauls out JP can sure things up a bit and we revise our target to 170/80. If Albie plays we have a big hitter who can be supported by someone like Parnell as a second big hitter. I don't think Behardien should be in the team as he is neither here nor there ... not good enough to bat top 5 and not a big hitter to bat 6 or 7 and not a good enough bowler to bat 8.
Cellar Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 so did the Aussies choke against the Pakis as well? No, I don't think the Aussies were ever really in the game.
Shebeen Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 I think we're still so unsure of our T20 strategy. We must have the worst record of opening power plays amongst the big teams. You need to take risks whilst the field is up, being 2/3 down after 6 overs is fine if you've got 60 on the board - 35/0 is crap. That's why i like richard levi in my team, he doesn't die wondering. I think the batting lineup needs to be a very liquid set-up, and varies as the innings progresses. You adjust according to who is in, and even which bowlers have used up overs. Good to have left/right combinations as well as anchor + slogger at the crease as much as possible. It's dawned on me that #amla two year magical run in all forms of the game is probably over, he is actually mortal. I was quite impressed with imran tahir's six off malinga's last ball. NOT many batsmen get that right.
Shebeen Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 once again okes throwing the C word around willy nilly. here is a CHOKEhttp://www.espncricinfo.com/icc_cricket_worldcup2011/engine/current/match/433602.html WC 1/4 final, ticking along nicely at 108/2 against the not so formidaable black caps...only need 115 from 25 overs at about 4.5 rpo with 8 wickets in hand. kallis and ab making it look easy. didn't even come close.
Shebeen Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 good stuff from JPD, textbook display of how to time a T20 innings.was on 20 at run a ball, 86 at 2 runs a ball.the good thing about jp is that he can play the anchor/support innings and then turn into a big hitter later. amazing how such a little guy hits the big sixes. seems like it's on a small field, so maybe 170 aint enough, but i dunno about the big hitters in this nz side once you get passed mccullum. ryder would get me a bit more worried.
JGR Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 (edited) I think we're still so unsure of our T20 strategy. We must have the worst record of opening power plays amongst the big teams. You need to take risks whilst the field is up, being 2/3 down after 6 overs is fine if you've got 60 on the board - 35/0 is crap. That's why i like richard levi in my team, he doesn't die wondering. I think the batting lineup needs to be a very liquid set-up, and varies as the innings progresses. You adjust according to who is in, and even which bowlers have used up overs. Good to have left/right combinations as well as anchor + slogger at the crease as much as possible. It's dawned on me that #amla two year magical run in all forms of the game is probably over, he is actually mortal. I was quite impressed with imran tahir's six off malinga's last ball. NOT many batsmen get that right.Stats say that if a team loses 3 within the power play they lose nearly 70% of the time. Amla was picked for his ability to hit good balls to the boundary http://www.cricket.geek.nz/2014/03/is-it-game-over-if-you-lose-more-than-2.html Don't let facts get in the way of a good argument Edited March 24, 2014 by JGR
Gandalf Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 looks like nz are closing the gab between balls left over vs runs required
dev null Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 Proteas not even making a contest of this game. Our bowling is useless. 3 wickets after 140 in a game where risks are taken regularly is poor. deanbean 1
Gandalf Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 Anyone know why tsotsobe gets to bowl 4 and steyn only on 2? steyn still injured?
Shebeen Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 wow, this one could be close....can the black caps do a proteas?time for steynja to show his reputation and close this one out Stats say that if a team loses 3 within the power play they lose nearly 70% of the time. Amla was picked for his ability to hit good balls to the boundary http://www.cricket.g...ore-than-2.html Don't let facts get in the way of a good argument ja, but a lot of the time that will be 30/3, when it's just as much slow run rate than wickets lost. HOWEVER, with our current tail of lopsy, morras and tahir we actually can't be so happy go lucky with wickets.
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