GrumpyOldGuy Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 Maybe this will just irritate Jan enough to write his book a little earlier and expose some more issues. I will be looking forward to it, as for the rest, I hope Jan tells em to ******off and stop wasting his time.
fandacious Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 Would be nice if Jan wrote a tell all book. The timing of these events looks so suspect, whats going on ??? its obviously a PR move of some sorts... but what??
GrumpyOldGuy Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 Jan ullrich sufferred from a burnout in 2010 this wont do him any good. German media have been extremely critical of him, pretty harsh when most if not all were doping at that time. Did he really?,.. I didnt know that.! Yeah the media have been tough on him in Germany, maybe he will decide enough is enough, I aint taking the fall alone and start spilling the beans, if anyone has the info and the backroom scenario it would be him..........we will have to wait and see.
Tumbleweed Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 I have a certain amount of sympathy for the (puts on Liggett accent) the Big Diesel Engine. He came through the East German sporting academies. Who knows what they gave those kids back then?
scotty Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 this Panel came to the conclusion that Jan Ullrich engaged at least in blood doping in violation of Article 15.2 of the UCI Anti-Doping rules,” the court said.Ah, for a moment there i thought he was found guilty cause Betsy told them he doped.
splat Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 The time they took to make their decision and wrap this up makes Contador's case look quick, tidy and efficient!
fandacious Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 Ah, for a moment there i thought he was found guilty cause Betsy told them he doped. this sets an interesting precedent... What exactly was the evidence they used to ban him? His blood was found in bags in op. puerto. but technically, that doesnt mean anything. While I certainly dont believe him innocent, it doesnt make him a doper.... what about all the cyclists implicated with dr ferrari? should they be banned as well?
TNT1 Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 Who knows what they gave those kids back then? Ginger snaps?
fandacious Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 Ginger snaps? see, its funny because.... ah fkit.. im not explaining it
Lucky Luke. Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) this sets an interesting precedent... What exactly was the evidence they used to ban him? His blood was found in bags in op. puerto. but technically, that doesnt mean anything. While I certainly dont believe him innocent, it doesnt make him a doper.... what about all the cyclists implicated with dr ferrari? should they be banned as well? Maybe the plan is to ban everyone living or dead who podiumed in a grand tour and wasn't bust from 1995 to 2005. Right now Andre Kivilev is trying to squeeze into the brace position from inside his coffin. Edited February 9, 2012 by Lucky Luke.
fandacious Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 Maybe the plan is to ban everyone living or dead who podiumed in a grand tour from 1995 to 2005. Right now Andre Kivilev is trying to squeeze into the brace position from inside his coffin. thats what you get for messing with uniball!
splat Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 this sets an interesting precedent... What exactly was the evidence they used to ban him? His blood was found in bags in op. puerto. but technically, that doesnt mean anything. While I certainly dont believe him innocent, it doesnt make him a doper.... what about all the cyclists implicated with dr ferrari? should they be banned as well? From Twitter: Race Radio 'Ullrich is banned for using Fuentes. What does mean for Frank Schleck who gave Fuentes $11,000 for "interval workouts"?' 'Who pays a gynecologist with a fridge full of blood $11,000 for "training advice"?'
GrumpyOldGuy Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 From Twitter: Race Radio 'Ullrich is banned for using Fuentes. What does mean for Frank Schleck who gave Fuentes $11,000 for "interval workouts"?' 'Who pays a gynecologist with a fridge full of blood $11,000 for "training advice"?' Ha,Ha, interesting, I saw a "@Vaughters" there, is that Jonathan Vaughters.? I like this comment, best I have seen for a while - @lancearmstrong is racing an Ironman this year. Those who ride their bikes in Speedos enjoy, he is your problem now
TNT1 Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 The Court of Arbitration for Sport has now banned me for two years. This ruling brings disciplinary proceedings to an end, which has lasted almost three years. This sporting legal tug of war was unsatisfactory for all concerned for myself as for the public. It is incomprehensible to me why we all had to wait so long for this judgment.I accept the ruling and will not challenge it. Not because I agree with all points in the court's opinion, but because I want to finish the issue definitively. As a personal consequence, I've pulled back in 2007 with my retirement from professional cycling. I confirm that I had contact with Fuentes. I know that that was a big mistake that I regret very much. For this behaviour, I would like to sincerely apologize to everyone - I'm very sorry. Looking back, I would act differently in certain situations during my career.I wanted to get out of the Tour 2006 everything again. After my tour victory in 1997 and five second places in the public, sponsors and also my own pressure was immense. Everyone wanted a second tour victory, especially after the retirement of Lance Armstrong.Shortly before the 2006 tour, I was hit: Suspension, headlines, ostracism, house searches, criminal complaints. I felt abandoned, fallen like a leaf. The whole world wanted to put me against the wall and then I went instinctively to ground, and eventually retired. As I said, I will not complain that not everything was warranted. Shortly after my suspension I wanted to explain my actions publicly but my hands were tied. On the advice of my lawyers, and as is usual in such cases, I have been silent on the allegations. Ultimately, this issue has polluted me for years so much that I was sick and I eventually broke down.I am glad that finally a decision was made. For me this brings to an end my active career in cycling and it is very personal for me and my family for this difficult time to come to an end. Today's ruling will not have any bearing on my future plans. I never thought in any capacity to return to active professional cycling. This statement is from my side all that will be said on this subject and I would not like to make any further statements or interviews in public. I hope for your understanding. I hereby draw a line.I owe a lot to cycling and will continue to further express my joy and passion for the sport to others. In the future I will therefore hope to be active in cycling in various roles. I look back on my cycling career and accomplishments with pride and look forward to my new career.Jan Ullrich
GrumpyOldGuy Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 Very dignified reaction, .........but I would expect nothing less, he has never pretended to be anything but human. I would still love to read his book though.
Velouria Posted February 10, 2012 Posted February 10, 2012 Time to head over to Der Kaiser's blog (http://www.myspace.com/kaiserjan/blog) and relive the good days: "And lo, when the Jan passes by, there will be a mighty rumble, as though a thousand elephants were falling down a hill. And the sun will be blotted from the sky by the wings of a thousand ravens, and the hearts of men shall quail, and the hearts of women shall flutter (and then quail), and even the hearts of quail shall quail, and the souls of the weak shall be snuffed out like candles in the wailing wind that follows his passing. Then shall be the time of the Jan, when he rises from the earth and takes his two thrones, one for each thigh. And then the world shall weep." - From the Book of Jan. Also known as the NecronomiJan. Ivan Basso is getting those finishes not because of the Ivan Basso. He is getting those finishes not because of his team, the CSC. He is getting those finishes because of the Great Yellow UniBalled One. I am being saying to you, how much time do you think I will gain on the Basso in the time trials this year? 2 minutes? 3 minutes? Oh, it is to say please. CSC is not the Discovery, and Basso is not the Lance. I will be time-trialing that little spaghetti-legged hairball into the dirt. I will be cleaning marinara sauce out of my spokes for weeks.Let the Heras have his Veulta, and let the Basso and the Salvodelli have their Giro. But the Tour? The Tour is mine.Q. Oh the Jan, you are dark and evil and blah, blah, etc., etc. So. What was with "The Look" everyone talks about that the Lance was being giving you in the 2001 Tour? Shoe - from, oh, let's say, ClosetA. Yes, well, it may be being hard for to you to be believing, but even with one ball, that guy is still a massive d!ck.
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