Argus - A group vs VB

[Paulst12]

VB been faster than A and VA in 90% of the races in Jhb this year, so unless it becomes a bit of a "sightseeing" ride, most of the group should be fine. Back markers invariably get caught.

['Dale]

Note to self: do what you despise and sit wheel for the first half of the race.

 

A is going to be VREK fast.

 

Wheelsucking Slipstreaming is an important skill in cycling...

 

:ph34r:

[Tiny K]

Then the time gap should be bigger to allow them a proper race

 

You racing your Bianchi yet? That pic looked awesome. Forgot to look on Saturday what bike you had on the back of the bakkie when I said hi.

[riaanb]

Note to self: do what you despise and sit wheel for the first half of the race.

 

A is going to be VREK fast.

 

So... if you're seeded in A, but the training hasn't quite gone acording to plan, should you drop a group or two before the start and hope to stick in that bunch to the end, or suffer for as long as possible in A and then limp to the finish TT style? Which should get you the best time?

Edited February 28, 2012 by riaanb

[Tiny K]

So... if you're seeded in A, but the training hasn't quite gone acording to plan, should you drop a group or two before the start and hope to stick in that bunch to the end, or suffer for as long as possible in A and then limp to the finish TT style? Which should get you the best time?

 

That is a risk you take - sitting in a fast bunch means that you will go faster than what you would have in a slower group....... and also allows you to sit wheel of the group behind should you drop off and get caught by them.

[Tiny K]

Wheelsucking Slipstreaming is an important skill in cycling...

 

:ph34r:

 

An aspect that I have not 100% (more like not at all) grasped in the 2 years I have cycled

[Bike Mob]

You racing your Bianchi yet? That pic looked awesome. Forgot to look on Saturday what bike you had on the back of the bakkie when I said hi.

 

Yes I took the KOM in the Bay City on it...pity there were no prizes left for us Ballies

[riaanb]

That is a risk you take - sitting in a fast bunch means that you will go faster than what you would have in a slower group....... and also allows you to sit wheel of the group behind should you drop off and get caught by them.

 

Ja, but if you are going to be dropped and finish with the group behind, you might as well start with them and shave 3 minutes off your time. Decisions, decisions.

[Tiny K]

Yes I took the KOM in the Bay City on it...pity there were no prizes left for us Ballies

 

Yeah, it's quite a pity that they focus the majority of the attention on the elites and not on the ladies, SV and Vets

[Tiny K]

Ja, but if you are going to be dropped and finish with the group behind, you might as well start with them and shave 3 minutes off your time. Decisions, decisions.

 

If you get dropped, the leaders of B WILL catch you....... I started in E last year and we caught C and D riders in their masses going up Chappies. Even some higher seeded guys that had dropped off their respective bunches.

Edited February 28, 2012 by Tiny K

[Minion]

So... if you're seeded in A, but the training hasn't quite gone acording to plan, should you drop a group or two before the start and hope to stick in that bunch to the end, or suffer for as long as possible in A and then limp to the finish TT style? Which should get you the best time?

My personal experience is that you will get a better time if start further back. If you start with A and fight to hang on, but fail, you're usually so knackered by the time the next couple of groups come past that you can't hold onto them either.

[Superfly1]

So... if you're seeded in A, but the training hasn't quite gone acording to plan, should you drop a group or two before the start and hope to stick in that bunch to the end, or suffer for as long as possible in A and then limp to the finish TT style? Which should get you the best time?

 

With you on that question...

[SeanMort]

If you get dropped, the leaders of B WILL catch you....... I started in E last year and we caught C and D riders in their masses going up Chappies. Even some higher seeded guys that had dropped off their respective bunches.

E bunch caught the main D bunch just before Simonstown as we all had to slow up while Mr Ryan O'Connor and his tjommies/fan club decided what the front of the bunch should do next. Should they carry on giving him a "helping hand" or should they let someone else set the pace. Lot's of bitching going on from riders trying to get things moving.

[Tiny K]

E bunch caught the main D bunch just before Simonstown as we all had to slow up while Mr Ryan O'Connor and his tjommies/fan club decided what the front of the bunch should do next. Should they carry on giving him a "helping hand" or should they let someone else set the pace. Lot's of bitching going on from riders trying to get things moving.

 

LOL! Shows how much attention I was paying to the race at the front of E....... didn't even know that. Was just dodging wheels that we were catching and avoiding the Jubilee Square masses on the side. Well that and watching the laaitie that kept shooting off the front, only to be caught a little later. Think he came 1st or 2nd in the E bunch. Light and strong guy he was.

[MariusL]

Eat some cement the night before the funride WC, HTFU and start where you are seeded... if you haven't trained properly - in the words of someone famous "Ag Shame!"

 

Edited February 29, 2012 by MariusL

[Tiny K]

Eat some cement the night before the fun WC, HTFU and start where you are seeded... if you haven't trained properly - in the words of someone famous "Ag Shame!"

 

 

LOL! Such a sympathetic guy you are! Rule #5 quite rightly quoted there M :clap: