Who import Mavic to SA and what do they "add"?

[Mudsimus]

SIDI finally back in the country - but go to www.sidi.co.za and see how few stockists are listed -

 

 

 

Have you tried that link? It takes you to http://www.sidi.co.za/Portals/0/LogoJpg.jpg

 

 

[madmarc]

Link did not load only the picture????????????????

[Mudsimus]

Try www.sidisa.co.za

 

[madmarc]

Try www.sidisa.co.za

 

 

thanx Mud Dee i stand corrected

[Johan Bornman]

Either way' date=' never let theats of "illegal products" scare you off. There is no such thing as an illegal product unless it is an unlicensed firearm or drugs. No local distributor owns any intellectual property from any of the cycling manufacturers and anyone can import, sell, repair (or not) any product.

 

 

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I do not agree with you, Johan. (and I still believe in the ceramic bearings too)

 

Yes anyone can buy his stuff from anywhere and pay his own shipping and so on, and you can sell what you want. We at Token (and I'm sure others work the same way) signed a contract with our sole distributor Triangle

 

Cut cut cut cut cut

 

 

Attie, I don't see where we disagree (other than apparently on something to do with ceramic bearings???).

 

I argued from a purely legal point of view and said there is no such thing as an "illegal product" as mentioned here and apparently in some advert. If I buy one of your products in Singapore and bring it to SA and resell it here, it is a perfectly legal product, unless you are in the cocaine business.

 

You argued from a moral standpoint. Of course you are right. Morally, grey importing is not nice, but then again, eating cows is also not nice, but perfectly legal.

 

All importers sit with this dilemma and in my experience it is only solved if the entire supply chain is healthy. As soon as there is too much margin in there, grey importers will bypass the local distributor.

 

Point is, unless a local organisation owns the intellectual property (patents, trademarks, registered designs etc), no-one can prevent you from selling, advertising or working on any product.

 

Grey imports are legal. And as you point out, immoral.

 

 

 

[Willehond]

Bottom line is if service was good (unlike straatvark's sad Mavic story), we would not be having this conversation!

I am also not going to take my moral guidance from a salesman, not even a bicycle salesman!  When did buying on an international level become immoral?  When I lived in the UK and ordered from the US, Hong Kong and Europe nobody cared.  Why are we so hung up on pleasing the local agents?  Like we owe them something because the are South African?

As to legality:  The agency has a contract to supply exclusively for the MANUFACTURER to the BICYCLE TRADE.  Not exclusively to the consumer, not limiting the bicycle trade to buy from the agency, only forcing the MANUFACTURER to not supply knowlingly to the TRADE without going through the agency.  So called grey products do not contravene this contract as the parties involved are not bound by the manufacturer/agent contract.

[Icycling]

I may have the Mavic items you looking for in stock! PM me please.

[javadude]

 

Bottom line is if service was good (unlike straatvark's sad Mavic story)' date=' we would not be having this conversation!

I am also not going to take my moral guidance from a salesman, not even a bicycle salesman!  When did buying on an international level become immoral?  When I lived in the UK and ordered from the US, Hong Kong and Europe nobody cared.  Why are we so hung up on pleasing the local agents?  Like we owe them something because the are South African?

As to legality:  The agency has a contract to supply exclusively for the MANUFACTURER to the BICYCLE TRADE.  Not exclusively to the consumer, not limiting the bicycle trade to buy from the agency, only forcing the MANUFACTURER to not supply knowlingly to the TRADE without going through the agency.  So called grey products do not contravene this contract as the parties involved are not bound by the manufacturer/agent contract.

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Well said!!!

 

[straatvark]

Update:

 

Got my wheel back from Dragons. They ordered parts from France.

 

Once I was negotiating with the right person there, things went for the better.

 

It would be good to have access to the same technical documents on Mavic support site as Dragons. Whould have saved some time. (The serial number on rim doesnt relate to the correct model number for example so visual confirmation in diagrams would have been nice)

 

But, from my side the case is closed.