Tankman Posted March 17, 2012 Posted March 17, 2012 There is a big difference between wheelsucking in a bunch and wheelsucking in a break like that.Especialy if you are that close to the finish with the bunch 10seconds behind you...only reason at that stage to not help is if you don't have the legs and you will settle for 2nd or 3rd. Nope, the only reason you do not want to help is when you care more about winning than helping ... like Gerrans did. Ok, thats it, Im gonna go suck wheel beer now!
kosmonooit Posted March 17, 2012 Posted March 17, 2012 Well opportunism paid off for him - Cacellera must know if a sprinter joins him in the break this is going to happen, but what can he do about it? What about Nibali - he just sat at the back of the break. Was he sent to mark Fabian so Sagan could take it?
nochain Posted March 17, 2012 Posted March 17, 2012 Did most of you watch the entire race or just the last few kilometers on the net ?Watched the last 40km or so on the net.follwed the rest on cyclingnews.
kosmonooit Posted March 17, 2012 Posted March 17, 2012 Did most of you watch the entire race or just the last few kilometers on the net ? I watched as soon as it came 'on air' after the World Cup XC - geneally k@k qualty video, audio was ok, didnt buffer too much, listened more that watched (was doing some stone masonry)
nochain Posted March 17, 2012 Posted March 17, 2012 Well opportunism paid off for him - Cacellera must know if a sprinter joins him in the break this is going to happen, but what can he do about it? What about Nibali - he just sat at the back of the break. Was he sent to mark Fabian so Sagan could take it?Nibali had a option in the chasing bunch so it would be the right thing to sit on...and i don't think he had the legs to sprint anyways.Thing with Nibali was that he attacked before cancellara so he basicly just joined him.Don't think it was the right tactics for LG with Sagan there.Think the problem with Cancellara is he is so strong that he believed he might still win even after all that work...personaly i would have sat up and told Simon to go F$&k himself and then i would have like to see if he can sprint with the real sprinters back in the bunch.
nochain Posted March 17, 2012 Posted March 17, 2012 I watched as soon as it came 'on air' after the World Cup XC - geneally k@k qualty video, audio was ok, didnt buffer too much, listened more that watched (was doing some stone masonry)I watched it on videochat.gazzetta.great quality for the net,could watch it on the ipad with 3g and no problems with feed or sound.Thanks 8ta!!:-)))
kosmonooit Posted March 17, 2012 Posted March 17, 2012 Fabin knows he s a marked man, and look what happened with Thor last year at the Paris - Roubaix, when he sat up and told the J man to sod off with this team tactics, but eventually managed to break away from his leechers but it was to late. Best I shut up now before Mr Powder keg tells me how little I know Anyway heres a new spin on "getting a pull" http://cdn1.media.cyclingnews.futurecdn.net//2012/03/17/2/bettiniphoto_0103381_1_full_600.jpg And this pics tells it all http://cdn1.media.cyclingnews.futurecdn.net//2012/03/17/1/bettiniphoto_0103375_1_full_600.jpg From Cyclenews
'Dale Posted March 17, 2012 Posted March 17, 2012 Gerrans showed great form at Paris-Nice already.2nd Australian in a row to take the win. A very good 3 and 4 for Liquigas-Cannondale!!
'Dale Posted March 17, 2012 Posted March 17, 2012 What I like about Fabulous Fabian is that he risks and goes for it.Throws in all his chips and dare.
Cav' Posted March 17, 2012 Posted March 17, 2012 Fabian is and will stay one of the best cyclists of the 21st century. Maybe next time...
nochain Posted March 17, 2012 Posted March 17, 2012 Fabian is and will stay one of the best cyclists of the 21st century. Maybe next time...Yes i hope he gets a big classic this year.Very few riders in the peleton would have been able to stay away like that without any help.That i think is part of the problem for him,had Gerans gone with Nibali and say hoogerland it would have been a bit off a joke and in the end a real sprinter would have won.But yes he is a marked man and he needs to think about other ways to win maybe. It is interesting to see how many guys find it ok to take a risk like that,wonder what the team orders would have been to Gerans....just sit there and hope to hell he is strong enough so you can take the win..if not sorry we try next year.Or should it be,the bunch is5sec behind you, take turns.....you are the faster rider so we can take this one if you guys work together and stay away.
GrumpyOldGuy Posted March 17, 2012 Posted March 17, 2012 I didnt see it but I am impressed to see Nibs in the thick of it, he is hardly a sprinter or a big strong guy like Fabian so hats off to him, I am impressed anyway. I was doubtful the peleton would be all together at the end, they know Cav will take it under those circumstances, so I thought a small group would try and get away, and it did, only thing is, I was hoping Boonen would be in it. But its okay, I'll settle for a Nibali Third, I have always liked him, so its all good.!
T-Bob Posted March 17, 2012 Posted March 17, 2012 - 2 weeks from tomorrow: Flanders- 3 weeks: Roubaix Love the monuments...
nochain Posted March 17, 2012 Posted March 17, 2012 I didnt see it but I am impressed to see Nibs in the thick of it, he is hardly a sprinter or a big strong guy like Fabian so hats off to him, I am impressed anyway. I was doubtful the peleton would be all together at the end, they know Cav will take it under those circumstances, so I thought a small group would try and get away, and it did, only thing is, I was hoping Boonen would be in it. But its okay, I'll settle for a Nibali Third, I have always liked him, so its all good.! Grumpy,cav man dropped of the back on a climb 90km into the race.bad position on the climb I think but he did not look good anyways.Boonen crashed close to the finish in the sprint....think he might have had 4th in the bag,was looking very good.Nibali started the attack that made the final move,he is looking very good.Hoogerland was also very aggresive.
nochain Posted March 17, 2012 Posted March 17, 2012 Grumpy,cav man dropped of the back on a climb 90km into the race.bad position on the climb I think but he did not look good anyways.Boonen crashed close to the finish in the sprint....think he might have had 4th in the bag,was looking very good.Nibali started the attack that made the final move,he is looking very good.Hoogerland was also very aggresive.Sorry 90km from the finish....he is not that k@k....hehe
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