Swim coach needed

[Mr SingleTrack]

45 min?

 

Put on troll coat

 

You should ask for a refund

 

Take off coat

 

Sorry no offense meant but 45 mins for 1 k seems very long

 

 

 

For the peps who have done the total immersion courses and those of us who still have to one day....

 

If you could summerize the Total Immersion philosophy / technique into one short paragraph, what would you say?

 

JA I’m looking for some free technique tips

Ok free tips:

TI is all about swimming in a stretched out position (front quadrant swimming). It’s all about minimizing drag.

I literally halved my stroke count on a 25m lap whilst keeping my pace the same, within one week of TI. This means I am going at the same speed but at a much lower HR. This helps to save energy for the cycle and run in a Tri event

[Disylizzy]

I must try this stroke count thing you guys speak of...

 

Will report back on Monday...

[BLACKvoodoo]

haha

[JGR]

Good tips there

 

Can you expand a bit on this one "while driving from the hips" i.e. what it means and how to get it right, is there a drill for learning how it feels?

 

Its quite hard to explain without visuals but ill try.

 

If you can imagine whilst swimming streching your arms and entering the water and using your hand/wrist to 'anchor' in the water - then imagine 'pulling' your body. At the point of hand entry your body is relativelt flat in the water. As you begin to pull (go forward) your turn your body moving slightly onto your side, use your hips to generate to power and trust yourself forwards. Gliding on yourside has far less drag than having your body flat. Picture your body as a mechanical object that roates slightly from side to side using the pulling power (from hand ancor) and driving power (from the hips). The hip drive should also coinside with your kick. Try to picture to kick start at the hip and driving that pockets of water down your leg and flicking it out the bottom. I hope this makes some kind of sense.

 

Other things to be aware of are entry points into the water, the angle the hand goes into the water. The hand entry should be close on centre. A common problem is thst most newbie swimmer do is that they dont complete a full stroke and their hand exits thw water to early. Concentrate on running thw hand down the side of the torso and 'flicking' the last bit of water out the back (during drills i often try and make a small splash from the water at the surface of the water at the end of the stroke. )

 

Concertrate on the timing of your stroke as well. This can be practices using 'catchup drills' where by you let the back hand almost touch the front before starting the next pull. You should generate enough power to glide whilst the other hand 'catches up'. Use a pull bouy in the begging to help raise your hips out the water (it also imporves your strength)

 

I am not a swimming ace but place fairly highly in the swim leg of most triathlons and i put in a fraction of the time most of my friends do purely based on a solid (not perfect) technique.

[JGR]

I must try this stroke count thing you guys speak of...

 

Will report back on Monday...

 

Thats the best way to break through into the next level. Keep the time the same and reduce stroke count!

[Disylizzy]

Thats the best way to break through into the next level. Keep the time the same and reduce stroke count!

 

 

I was being facetious... But thanks for the vote of confidence. My goal is to get back to swimming 1:10min/100m, I'm currently at 1:25-1:30 depending on the day.

 

EDIT: Don't meant to sound full of it, but I have actually never counted my strokes. So I'm curious to see what it is.

Edited July 20, 2012 by Disylizzy

[Mr SingleTrack]

 

Ok free tips:

TI is all about swimming in a stretched out position (front quadrant swimming). It’s all about minimizing drag.

I literally halved my stroke count on a 25m lap whilst keeping my pace the same, within one week of TI. This means I am going at the same speed but at a much lower HR. This helps to save energy for the cycle and run in a Tri event

BTW I got my stroke count down without attending a Ti class or buying any of their media. I just googled it and read as much as possible and the clips on youytube helped a lot as well. I now bought the book and dvd though

[JGR]

 

I was being facetious... But thanks for the vote of confidence. My goal is to get back to swimming 1:10min/100m, I'm currently at 1:25-1:30 depending on the day.

 

EDIT: Don't meant to sound full of it, but I have actually never counted my strokes. So I'm curious to see what it is.

 

1m10 is very fast - at IM 70.3 that would give you just over a 22min swim leg. Enough to beat some pros!

[SwissVan]

Thanks for all the input, even tho I only swim 2 x week and do so mainly for cross training purposes and to be fit enough to do an annual triathlon I’m kind of fixated on improving my swim times by improving technique rather than fitness (LOL yep I'm lazy) which as you all know is pretty important in swimming.

 

I have no idea of my stroke count per length either. Many years ago had some coaching from Simon Daly in Benoni and he was excelent, he basicaly taught us the same stuff that you guys already mentioned.

 

A few weeks ago I did a 500m TT in a 25m indoor pool (without doing tumble turns - not fit enough to do a TT with tumbles) and did it in 8:52, would like to get it closer to 8min but will have to make some major technique improvements, especially my kick is useless and my heavy legs and not so flexible anchors ankles slow me down.

[JGR]

Best way to go - Quality training with good technique fars out weights turning out lots of laps ineffiecently. Stroke count is not a fancy formula - just have to count in a consistent way that you will continue to apply. ie. if you count one as a full cycle or a single stroke is up to you.

 

Also make use of the clock - its the best way to train.

[HandH]

Looking for a freelance swim coach to help me and three mates

 

Do you & your 3 mates look like this?? If so I'm there!!!

[JGR]

Do you & your 3 mates look like this?? If so I'm there!!!

 

*cough* ladies ... i would like to demonstrate the breastroke

[ruib]

Do you & your 3 mates look like this?? If so I'm there!!!

:eek: :drool:

Me too!!!

[HandH]

*cough* ladies ... i would like to demonstrate the breastroke

 

Or how to properly ***cough***dive

[JGR]

Or how to properly ***cough***dive

 

Will have to check they are adequatly shaved - for streamlining purposes of course. Can be the difference from being first or last. Altough i can handle a whole group one on one session allow me to give you more attention

[Burnie]

 

 

Do you & your 3 mates look like this?? If so I'm there!!!

 

Thanks for all the advice! It is clear that TI is the way to go. Thanks Terry for the contact detail.

 

O yes, by the way! We got hold of a trainer looking very much like the lady in black bikini thingy in the photo above! Amazing what difference extra buoyancy does to our swim performance!