Ride with or against traffic flow? Which is safer and why?

[Master-Yoda]

Odds on people actually believing its real when its a fake video.

Seriously, are you that stupid? It's an example of the "odds" previously discussed and was rightfully used as an example, no one is debating if the video is real or not so stop taking things so literally.

[Master-Yoda]

Still much better than being a Judas Goat, leading other innocent cyclists to their death......

 

 

A Judas goat is a trained goat used in general animal herding. The Judas goat is trained to associate with sheep or cattle, leading them to a specific destination. In stockyards, a Judas goat will lead sheep to slaughter, while its own life is spared. ...

You would know now wouldn't you, native language maybe?

[Lexx]

This is the only place where i wil ride on the Right Hand side of the road.

This is the road from Baberton to Josefsdal Border Post, 2300m of Climbing and one hell of a drop off to your Left.

[Master-Yoda]

This is the only place where i wil ride on the Right Hand side of the road.

This is the road from Baberton to Josefsdal Border Post, 2300m of Climbing and one hell of a drop off to your Left.

So you'll ride on the right because it's safer, regardless is being illegal as others have already pointed out?

[Lexx]

Maybe i didnt make myself Clear. I will only ride on the right hand side of THAT Part of the road where theres a Massive drop of more than 200m, and no yellow lines.

[Master-Yoda]

Maybe i didnt make myself Clear. I will only ride on the right hand side of THAT Part of the road where theres a Massive drop of more than 200m, and no yellow lines.

No need to repeat and/or clarify, I understood you first time.

Regardless of the "conditions", you're still prepared to break the law and move your ass over to the right because there's a drop of 200mt (dangerous maybe?), so riding against traffic where it's safer is ok when the conditions suit you?!

 

You shouldn't have posted anything in the first place cause you're shooting yourself in the foot..

[GaryvdM]

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Let me throw this at you from a different angle. Three riders (mom/dad/child) are riding with the traffic flow and some drunk driver comes and hits them from behind, do you think that only one, two or possibly all three riders will be hit by the vehicle? Most families ride closely to one another and the way I see it, there's a higher chance of all three family members suffering the same outcome.

 

Now the same scenario except that this family is now riding against the traffic flow and of course, the same driver comes along. Now I don't know about most people by I for one have a defensive style of driving, I'm constantly looking and anticipating what other drivers are doing and I apply the same technique to when I ride my bike on the road, I go defensive. So I'll definitely be on the look out and am likely going to be ready to have some sort of reaction if I have the slightest feeling that "***" is heading my way and I honestly believe that anyone that's behind me will also have a better chance of reacting.

 

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Even if you were to see the drunk driver heading at at you with 5 seconds to spare (this is a high est.) and the road edge looks like the pics bellow, there is not much you could do to get out the way. (I certainly could not climb up these without dismounting, and by the time you stop and unclip, that 5 seconds is up.

 

[Lexx]

I dont need a Lecture or Approval. And i certainly dont need your Sarcastic Answer. I will ride where i deem necessary to keep myself safe. So just Shut it, and go back to your IDT!!

[Master-Yoda]

Even if you were to see the drunk driver heading at at you with 5 seconds to spare (this is a high est.) and the road edge looks like the pics bellow, there is not much you could do to get out the way. (I certainly could not climb up these without dismounting, and by the time you stop and unclip, that 5 seconds is up.

 

Not much time of space to do much, at least for the rider/s out in front but maybe other riders that are behind will have a better chance or reacting.

 

And how about this scenario where there's more than enough space to move out of the danger line?

 

http://onlinepubs.trb.org/onlinepubs/archive/conferences/2011/10LVR/Rural_Road.jpg

[Master-Yoda]

I dont need a Lecture or Approval. And i certainly dont need your Sarcastic Answer. I will ride where i deem necessary to keep myself safe. So just Shut it, and go back to your IDT!!

 

Yeah it sucks when things don't go your way now doesn't it?

[Master-Yoda]

I dont need a Lecture or Approval. And i certainly dont need your Sarcastic Answer. I will ride where i deem necessary to keep myself safe. So just Shut it, and go back to your IDT!!

 

And I forgot to mention, you can't ride where you deem it safe to ride. You HAVE TO ride with the traffic flow or haven't you heard it's illegal to ride on the right?

[Lexx]

ai jai jai, do you want a reaction. Do you want me to get mad and swear on this Forum. Well sorry for you. I dont feed the Troll.

[Master-Yoda]

ai jai jai, do you want a reaction. Do you want me to get mad and swear on this Forum. Well sorry for you. I dont feed the Troll.

If you started swearing then you'd only prove that you're incapable of debating the topic. Of course I want a reaction, an intelligent one and not some random cursing

Edited November 16, 2013 by 3dclaude

[GaryvdM]

 

And how about this scenario where there's more than enough space to move out of the danger line?

 

http://onlinepubs.trb.org/onlinepubs/archive/conferences/2011/10LVR/Rural_Road.jpg

 

Yhea maybe. Provided that the density of intersections is very low.

[Master-Yoda]

Yhea maybe. Provided that the density of intersections is very low.

Agreed, it all depends on the circumstances and as cyclists we need to judge each scenario accordingly.

[TopFuel]

I don't mind replying to your question but why don't you do the same and reply to mine first? I've put different scenarios out there which all have read yet fail to post a reply specific to it which makes me believe that the obvious answer would be favorable to riding against the traffic flow. Now you take my question ans answer it with your own question and expect a reply in my defense, I don't think so. I will however gladly reply when the same courtesy is received.

 

Now it is quite clear to me you are trolling. I put forward a clear situation where your plan is quite clearly unsafe, and is far more likely to occur than your radical drunk driver and you don't even answer my question, claiming I must answer yours first like a 5 year old.

 

You're moving too fast to be in the opposite stream of traffic, you're not half as agile as a pedestrian doing the same, and you put yourself, your family and other law-abiding cyclists at risk.

 

So, please stop skirting the issue and using incredibly unlikely events as the basis of you breaking the law and stop challenging the status quo, which was obviously thought about much more than you care to.