@bicycleasshole and @wattagenitro

[Tumbleweed]

does this now count as defamatory??

 

Yes, it's speculative and without any factual basis. If you were a media outlet, you'd have failed a public interest defence because you have failed to take all reasonable steps to establish if there is any truth to a rumour. The same rules would apply to private individuals posting on social media.

[fandacious]

That, however, does not diminish their rights to dignity. If you're proven to have had malicious intent and acted unlawfully in what you say, the tests for defamation have been met.

 

 

whats the difs between that and calling lance a doper 3 years ago?

[davetapson]

Wonder why Fedgroup is still involved? Makes one wonder what type of company it is. Certainly don't want my retirement funds invested with them.

And one more nail in the coffin for businesses taking the risk of sponsoring cyclists.

[Tumbleweed]

whats the difs between that and calling lance a doper 3 years ago?

 

There was a lot of anecdotal evidence that people were willing to testify to in a court of law. Would any of the sources of rumours here and on other platforms be prepared to do the same? Big difference.

[fandacious]

There was a lot of anecdotal evidence that people were willing to testify to in a court of law. Would any of the sources of rumours here and on other platforms be prepared to do the same. Big difference.

 

thats a big if...

[kingalton]

Just because one can or may say something, doesn't mean one should say it...

[fandacious]

And one more nail in the coffin for businesses taking the risk of sponsoring cyclists.

 

especially if they act like primadonnas.

[Tumbleweed]

thats a big if...

 

Take the SCA case. Lance never proved that those who deposed against him were lying. He got off on a contractual technicality. The info that came from that hearing became part of public record.

 

There's no similarity between the rumours about the local cyclists and LA.

[fandacious]

Take the SCA case. Lance never proved that those who deposed against him were lying. He got off on a contractual technicality. The info that came from that hearing became part of public record.

 

There's no similarity between the rumours about the local cyclists and LA.

 

it actually doesnt answer my question

 

 

how is this any different if *I* called lance a doper 3 years ago.

 

me, not someone he worked with

[Tumbleweed]

it actually doesnt answer my question

 

 

how is this any different if *I* called lance a doper 3 years ago.

 

me, not someone he worked with

 

There was reasonable proof out there that he had been doping, so you wouldn't have to worry.

[kingalton]

it actually doesnt answer my question

 

 

how is this any different if *I* called lance a doper 3 years ago.

 

me, not someone he worked with

there was "evidence" in the lance case.. with your statement\question\whatever you were using the lack of results as "evidence" - there is nothing concrete there to start questioning someone's integrity..

[fandacious]

there was "evidence" in the lance case.. with your statement\question\whatever you were using the lack of results as "evidence" - there is nothing concrete there to start questioning someone's integrity..

 

isnt this exaclty where we were with lance 3 years ago?

[fandacious]

isnt this exaclty where we were with lance 3 years ago?

 

and anyways, who said i was talking about kevin? there's been a LOT of assumptions...

[kingalton]

and anyways, who said i was talking about kevin? there's been a LOT of assumptions...

There was no assumptions. your tweet was pretty clear, no one else happens to "fall" into those particular circumstances you described..

[fandacious]

There was no assumptions. your tweet was pretty clear, no one else happens to "fall" into those particular circumstances you described..

 

 

and even then. I said it makes me wonder. How do you jump from that to accusing someone of doping?

[kingalton]

and even then. I said it makes me wonder. How do you jump from that to accusing someone of doping?

Not to worry bud, just keep on keeping on..