Bellscycling Posted July 21, 2014 Share when you have details on the new Camber, please share with us. I know a lot of us are very interested, and especially keen to know if we will get the Evo versions and the S works frame only option. Very very keen on a S works Camber this year. They are doing the The Comp Carbon, Expert Carbon and anExpert Evo model. Sworks will also be availible in a frame set. I can add some specs and prices later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johny Bravo Posted July 21, 2014 Share They are doing the The Comp Carbon, Expert Carbon and anExpert Evo model. Sworks will also be availible in a frame set. I can add some specs and prices later.Oh yes. finally we get the Evo. That model will sell like hotcakes. Thanks so much. Jacques Viljoen and GLuvsMtb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arendoog Posted July 21, 2014 Share NO MAN. Get educated on the difference between structural rigidity (stiffness) and a "stiff ride" Stiffness in the suspension world basically means lack of flex. Flex = BAD. It makes your wheels track badly, and unpredictably. You want a fork to be as stiff as possible (structurally) without being too heavy. As for the suspension itself (action) you want that to be sensitive to small bumps, but not blow through the travel when the going gets rough - firm, in other words.I don,t turn that much when i ride .I mainly keep everything in a straight line ,brake ,put my foot down ,turn the bike and carry on .For small bumps i ride with flattish tyres and my fork has always been on something called lockout .What you have discribed sounds like an erectile disfunction Ham 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted July 21, 2014 Share I don,t turn that much when i ride .I mainly keep everything in a straight line ,brake ,put my foot down ,turn the bike and carry on .For small bumps i ride with flattish tyres and my fork has always been on something called lockout .What you have discribed sounds like an erectile disfunction Cool story, bro. Thing is, for people who turn, hit berms, jumps, drops and rock / root gardens, flex is bad. VERY bad. It's kinda the same as having a grossly under-inflated tyre, and trying to take a corner at speed - that lateral movement that makes you feel as if the back end is going to wash out at any second? Yeah. But - don't take my word for it... GLuvsMtb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arendoog Posted July 21, 2014 Share We don,t do stuff like that in Gauteng .We ride everything hard and then the shop fixes what had broken and repeat ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted July 21, 2014 Share We don,t do stuff like that in Gauteng .We ride everything hard and then the shop fixes what had broken and repeat ! Even still. Flex in the fork means you're putting less power down. So you'd still need a stiff fork. Stiff fork = no lateral movement / flex. Firm fork means less suspension movement when you hit the bumps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johny Bravo Posted July 21, 2014 Share Even still. Flex in the fork means you're putting less power down. So you'd still need a stiff fork. Stiff fork = no lateral movement / flex. Firm fork means less suspension movement when you hit the bumps.I fear your wisdom is lost on poor old blitzer. Probably still bitter that the Bulls did not reach the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arendoog Posted July 21, 2014 Share Even still. Flex in the fork means you're putting less power down. So you'd still need a stiff fork. Stiff fork = no lateral movement / flex. Firm fork means less suspension movement when you hit the bumps.I have plenty power like John Smit .Won,t notice a bit of loss here and there .It might make a difference to a skinny capetonian thou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted July 21, 2014 Share I have plenty power like John Smit .Won,t notice a bit of loss here and there .It might make a difference to a skinny capetonian thou BAHAHAHAHAHA!!! That's the first time in 30 plus years I've been referred to as "skinny". Even then, not. 105kg, 6 ft. Yeah. I'm absolutely lanky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arendoog Posted July 21, 2014 Share BAHAHAHAHAHA!!! That's the first time in 30 plus years I've been referred to as "skinny". Even then, not. 105kg, 6 ft. Yeah. I'm absolutely lanky.Then that carbon s-works is not for us in the buffelo catagory .I think now we are getting somewhere in this thread Edited July 21, 2014 by Blitzer Hairy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp Posted July 21, 2014 Share Even still. Flex in the fork means you're putting less power down. So you'd still need a stiff fork. Stiff fork = no lateral movement / flex. Firm fork means less suspension movement when you hit the bumps. It's actually flex in the BB that equates to less power.I flimsy fork simply just feels flimsy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted July 21, 2014 Share It's actually flex in the BB that equates to less power.I flimsy fork simply just feels flimsy. yeah, but if some of your power goes into a wobbly fork, it'll move sideways instead of forwards. Not as much as if you have a flexy BB (that just feels as if you're churning butter but going 5 kph) Would be enhanced pedal bob, except not in the rear suspension... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp Posted July 21, 2014 Share yeah, but if some of your power goes into a wobbly fork, it'll move sideways instead of forwards. Not as much as if you have a flexy BB (that just feels as if you're churning butter but going 5 kph) Would be enhanced pedal bob, except not in the rear suspension... Just saying that all these through axles and beefier crowns add to some forward momentum, but it's really 0.867686960607645 %Pedal bob, yes that can be energy sapping, but then again I have seen people with such poor form that they can make a rigid fork bob. Hairy, arendoog, LazyTrailRider and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted July 21, 2014 Share Just saying that all these through axles and beefier crowns add to some forward momentum, but it's really 0.867686960607645 %Pedal bob, yes that can be energy sapping, but then again I have seen people with such poor form that they can make a rigid fork bob. HAHAHAHAH!!! Yeah, indeed! Although on the uphills, that'd be me at the moment. Damn. 2 months off with flu, tonsillitus, sick laitie, cancerous (then not cancerous) dad and so on. Takes it out of you. Was panting harder than a paedo at the local Spur playpen. Nimby, Wyatt Earp and Vangar 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyTrailRider Posted July 21, 2014 Share I have seen people with such poor form that they can make a rigid fork bob. Haha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathrix Posted July 21, 2014 Share Just saying that all these through axles and beefier crowns add to some forward momentum, but it's really 0.867686960607645 %Pedal bob, yes that can be energy sapping, but then again I have seen people with such poor form that they can make a rigid fork bob. Don't be nasty now, i can't help it if i pedal like the oros man, it's the only way I'm able to get my knees past my pensie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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