Brandon Stewart

[Patchelicious]

She was the TUE administrator...... I may be dumb but not that dumb... There were also a lot of other things like a TUE code that was on my ADAMS antidoping profile, which is a code that gets generated for a TUE.... The story is very involved would have to write for days explaining all the ins and outs.

I am sure you wouldn't speak to the receptionist. I was making an exaggerated point to an exaggerated statement. But now that you are answering my posts. Please answers these previous questions: 1) When your TUE was initially declined should you have not made the call to pull out of competition immediately? By yourself not await a mail from an administrator telling you to do so? (If I believe your entire story, that part still doesn't make sense to me.) 2) Are you going to use this bad situation to make positive contributions to cycling and make the SAIDS process better?

[Wyatt Earp]

It seems as if some of you are constantly questioning the integrity of BS's choice to take the meds or not.

 

Here is shortened list of other banned drugs..........

 

Apologies for editing your good work, but we all need to understand, we are amongst angels here.

[fabes]

Apologies for editing your good work, but we all need to understand, we are amongst angels here.

How dare you

[Guest Smimby]

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[Patchelicious]

It seems as if some of you are constantly questioning the integrity of BS's choice to take the meds or not.

 

Yes as a pro is your job to know, but how far do you go when you have a medical doctor who has prescribed a banned drug to you as a professional cyclist, on his recommendation you take it up and contact SAIDS to inform them of this, requesting a TUE, attempting to follow their process?

I don't think his integrity of why he took it is being questioned. He has been very open and honest about that. If my doc tells me to pop pills to stay healthy, dammit I will take them! BUT then then you need the TUE BEFORE going back to work. If my doctor gives me Advil tablets that doesn't mean I can automatically just stay home away from work, I need a doctors note too stating that I can.

[fabes]

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He does it all the time

[Blackbeard]

Blackbeard I don't think you are quite understanding.... All I am saying is that I tried to do the right thing and it wasn't a matter of just cheating and saying "mentioned" or "said" think that is splitting hairs... I am a bike rider, didn't write the English dictionary... That's why I have said deserve a sentence but worse than that of one who just got caught cheating.... So I should have rather used a different testo more beneficial to performance and more chance of getting away with it..... "do you now get what I am stating here" Sorry for flogging the horse

I understand fully and I think my language use is quite clear. Trying to do the right thing means not racing on testosterone when you knew you did not have a TUE. You knew Anique could not give you a TUE, but you gambled on getting one down the line - it did not work. I am not judging your moral turpitude. There may have been better forms of testosterone for performance, but you knew the one you used was banned. It was your decision and there was always the risk that a lengthy ban could be imposed. Perhaps those other "cheaters" didn't attack SAIDS for their own poor decisions.

[Tubehunter]

I don't think his integrity of why he took it is being questioned. He has been very open and honest about that. If my doc tells me to pop pills to stay healthy, dammit I will take them! BUT then then you need the TUE BEFORE going back to work. If my doctor gives me Advil tablets that doesn't mean I can just stay home away from work, I need a doctors note too stating that I can.

 

Will your doctor write a 6 month sick note for you?? If you're a professional rider and the doc says take these meds as it will definitely HELP you with your non racing issues and these are not actually going to give you the doper benefit in the effect, will you wait 6 months for the TUE to be approved in writing? What about AFTER speaking to someone at SAIDS and getting their OK? Would you still press on without knowing the details of this and having this hindsight? Or would you have followed the process as Brandon has explained he did?

[Rudi Pollard]

Put your hands up if you have ever taken any of these and done any races (I dare you):

 

Advil tablets

Ashthavent syrup

Celestamine syrup and tabs

Demazin tabs

Flemeze syrup

Flusin

Linctifed

Nurofen

Sinumax

Sinu-med syrup and tabs

Vicks Medinite syrup

 

I should be banned for about 10 years with everything Ive raced on during this winter.......

[Plentipotential]

Forgive me for saying so as this has probably been covered in most if not all of these types of threads. The first response from 99% of all athletes who get bust for doping is any one of a multitude of excuses, stories ranging from I didn't know, to it was the steak at so - and - so restaurant. That's the standard response. Hat's off the the very few who just decline the B sample test and fall on their sword, David George is one such athlete.

 

The evidence is clear, the very long line of past and present is there for all of us to see, loads of pro athletes dope, most of the dopers take every medical and other precaution to avoid getting caught, plenty of them are on a substance that has no test to detect it as yet.

 

My question to the fans and family of the pro athletes is, when are you going to take your heads out of the sand and accept the fact that there is every possibility that your hero is a cheat?

 

As a pro athlete sitting in front of a doctor who is prescribing medication you simply say, " I am a pro athlete who needs to be careful of taking banned drugs, what's in these pills/whatever? If the doctor does not know then get a new doctor. If the drugs are unavoidable and contain a no-no, get a TUE filled in by the doctor and wait a few days for exemption, it really is that simple.

 

Now let's get back to the Vuelta and may the best doper win!

 

A once much loved cyclist stood in front of a large crowd in the middle of Paris and said "I'm sorry if you do not believe.." Well I believe, I believe most of them do drugs, that way I'm not too disappointed when they get done. Which reminds me, what's happening to Daryl's case?

[Patchelicious]

Will your doctor write a 6 month sick note for you?? If you're a professional rider and the doc says take these meds as it will definitely HELP you with your non racing issues and these are not actually going to give you the doper benefit in the effect , will you wait 6 months for the TUE to be approved in writing? What about AFTER speaking to someone at SAIDS and getting their OK? Would you still press on without knowing the details of this and having this hindsight? Or would you have followed the process as Brandon has explained he did?

Whether the prescribed substance gives you the "doper benefit" as you put it, is really not up to SAIDS, its on the banned substance list that they need to enforce, BS knew this hence him applying for the TUE. Whether said substance should be on the list is a different debate, and one that I cannot add too as I am not a doctor, and I have said before, if it shouldn't be on there it should be addressed. I am not saying he shouldn't have taken it if his doctor prescribed it, I actually agreed he should. I am saying that knowing its a banned substance, it would probably have been best to stay out of competition until the TUE thing was sorted, properly.

[Guest Smimby]

Whether the prescribed substance gives you the "doper benefit" as you put it, is really not up to SAIDS, its on the banned substance list that they need to enforce, BS knew this hence him applying for the TUE. Whether said substance should be on the list is a different debate, and one that I cannot add too as I am not a doctor, and I have said before, if it shouldn't be on there it should be addressed. I am not saying he shouldn't have taken it if his doctor prescribed it, I actually agreed he should. I am saying that knowing its a banned substance, it would probably have been best to stay out of competition until the TUE thing was sorted, properly.

 

 

Correct but it shows INTENT (or rather NON - INTENT) to gain an advantage....

[Mousea]

I would like you to focus Mousea: BS can speak to little green leprechauns if he wishes, but if he wanted to race legally while on testosterone he would have required a decision from a person or persons legally authorised to grant him a TUE after, and only after, fully considering all the merits of his application.

I Give UP

[Plentipotential]

Will your doctor write a 6 month sick note for you?? If you're a professional rider and the doc says take these meds as it will definitely HELP you with your non racing issues and these are not actually going to give you the doper benefit in the effect, will you wait 6 months for the TUE to be approved in writing? What about AFTER speaking to someone at SAIDS and getting their OK? Would you still press on without knowing the details of this and having this hindsight? Or would you have followed the process as Brandon has explained he did?

 

I applied for a TUE once, a few years back, took a week if memory serves me. It is good for as long as you are on the meds plus some time to allow it to work it's way out of the system. Doc charged a few hundred to fill it in tho.

[Guest Smimby]

I applied for a TUE once, a few years back, took a week if memory serves me. It is good for as long as you are on the meds plus some time to allow it to work it's way out of the system. Doc charged a few hundred to fill it in tho.

So why did it take SOOOO long for them to come back to BS

[jaxtun]

I Give UP

 

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